cagebreak
caja
cagebreak | caja | |
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247 | 264 | |
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4.3 | 6.9 | |
15 days ago | about 2 months ago | |
C | C | |
MIT License | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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cagebreak
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Here's what your typical Linux system looked like in 2003. We've come so far.
There's also a Wayland WM directly inspired by ratpoison! https://github.com/project-repo/cagebreak
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Actually functional compositors, and querying their protocol capabilities : mirroring screens
That's true for a lot of libraries, you have to maintain the code, I would treat that as a fact of life, It might be worth noting there are some projects designed to provide a high level abstraction over wlroots which might be different: cage -> used by cagebreak phoc -> used by phosh and wayfire -> used by swayfire.
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With rise of wayland, are simpler window managers dying?
cagebreak as far as i can tell is a one man project (it uses cage to provide a high level abstraction over wlroots).
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Writing a Wayland compositor is MUCH harder than it should be
I also remembered cagebreak (wayland window manager). it uses cage (which is defined as a "wayland kiosk" but might also be used as a high level abstraction over wlroots).
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EXWM and Wayland
Anyway, like you I also wanted to see how far I could go on Wayland. After trying out a number of wms I settled on cagebreak which is modeled on ratpoison. It's still in early development but worked well enough for me to give it a semi daily driver status. It works really well with emacs too, without the single-thread issue. I went for a pure Wayland experience (without XWayland as well), so I couldn't some apps I normally use - but I was able to create something quite close to my xorg setup.
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Wayland alternatives
There's cagebreak, wich is inspired by ratpoison. It's different yo hlwm, but it has the same concept of containers, but every container only have the "max" layout
- Cagebreak: A Wayland Tiling Compositor Inspired by Ratpoison
caja
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Systemd Rolling Out "run0" As sudo Alternative
I don't know if you are DE shopping, but I've been very happy for the past few years with the MATE Desktop Environment, which "...is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems."
https://mate-desktop.org/
Among a great number of things I really like, I will mention that Caja, the MATE version of GNOME 2's Nautilus file manager, still can still be switched to spatial mode.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_file_manager
Generally speaking, I too really liked GNOME 2.32 and its predecessors, and, as far as I'm concerned, MATE is as it describes itself.
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Lobotomizing Gnome
I agree that there is a balance between customization and "cleanness" in design and implementation.
However, I think the GNOME 3 and 4 designers went too far and alienated many users:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-finds-gnome-3-4...
https://medium.com/@fulalas/gnome-42-the-nonsense-continues-...
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/wte7tr/gnomes_design...
https://linuxreviews.org/GNOME_Developers_have_Made_Their_Mo...
https://www.osnews.com/story/133955/gnome-to-prevent-theming...
When a designer's "coherent vision" eclipses the needs of the software's users then users get frustrated and either fork the project or go to another project. MATE (https://mate-desktop.org/), Cinnamon (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon), and Unity (https://unityd.org/) exist largely because of how far the GNOME 3 designers went and how they were not willing to compromise their "coherent vision":
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1910
https://web.archive.org/web/20101129161856/http://www.pcworl...
- Here's what your typical Linux system looked like in 2003. We've come so far.
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Very New to Linux
MATE
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I'm going to leave Windows to move permanently to Linux Fedora (I've been using Windows + Ubuntu for several years now), can you help me with some questions about Fedora?
Mate https://mate-desktop.org/ would be decent for GTK apps. https://www.gtk.org
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Git migration completed
Arch devs endorsing MATE 😮
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I Still Use Windows 95 (archived, 2008)
> Is there a WM out there that can do the basic quality-of-life functions of today's DEs? I'd love a simple, opinionated WM that takes the features we know are useful today (workspaces, expo mode, sensible file manager layouts, system trays) and gives them a color-adjustable window theme inspired by 90's aesthetics, with minimal compositing that can run fast on hardware as minimal as a prototype RISC-V board. Or really, what we need is a truly minimal DE. Something that doesn't care about GTK or Qt or Kvantum, and stays lean.
Mate desktop environment in my opinion comes closest to the simplicity of the Windows 95/GNOME 2 environments of the old: https://mate-desktop.org/.
Not sure how hardware-frugal it is since maintaining it under GTK 2 was not feasible and it's now developed against GTK 3 (with still maintaining the look and feel of GNOME 2).
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Still unsure as to how this managed to happen 😖
Some people deliberately put mate on their PCs.
- Release Channel 1.50.114
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Any advice on Ubuntu MATE?
I have been using MATE for a couple of years now on an Intel Mac mini and it works... mostly. Things I am not a fan of: 1) Snap packages. For anyone that chimes in about how wonderful they are I have yet to see any evidence of that and, please, do show me how you launch OpenShot Video Editor because, well, it doesn't. 2) X-Windows. I'm sorry, but this should be brain-dead simple as running xhost+ on the device you want to receive the X application on, ssh to the other machine with -Y -C flags so you don't have to set the display variable (and you get compression) and then launch the application and it appears on the desktop session you are using. I've been doing this with UNIX machines since the first week I used one in 1992 or so (only I used telnet and set my display instead of using ssh but that's not the point). Anyway, it should work but almost never does without a mind-numbing around my crap to deal with. I keep a Raspberry Pi 4 running just for this purpose oh and ... 3) VNC. Should work. Does not without a lot of tinkering. Also 4) I recall that I had to take some extra steps so that users on the same MATE box could not see the contents of one another's home directories but this was a while back. The fact that it was ever set to allow users on the same system to view the contents of each other's home directories was and is insane.
What are some alternatives?
sway-borders - Fork of sway with some extra features, mainly related to borders.
NanaZip - The 7-Zip derivative intended for the modern Windows experience
sway - i3-compatible Wayland compositor
lumina - Lumina Desktop Environment
kiwmi - A fully programmable Wayland Compositor
mate-optimus - NVIDIA Optimus GPU switcher
river - [mirror] A dynamic tiling Wayland compositor
os - The OS build system
wayward - Fast desktop shell for wayland and weston.
rs_asio - ASIO for Rocksmith 2014
Hyprland - Hyprland is a highly customizable dynamic tiling Wayland compositor that doesn't sacrifice on its looks.
cosmopolitan - build-once run-anywhere c library