async-profiler VS JDK

We'll use async-profiler and flame graphs for profiling. To simplify the process, we'll run the code using JBang.

JIT'ed code is sadly poorly supported, but LLVM has had great hooks for noting each method that is produced and its address. So you can build a simple mixed-mode unwinder, pretty easily, but mostly in process.

I think Intel's DNN things dump their info out to some common file that perf can read instead, but because the *kernels* themselves reuse rbp throughout oneDNN, it's totally useless.

Finally, can any JVM folks explain this claim about DWARF info from the article:

> Doesn't exist for JIT'd runtimes like the Java JVM

that just sounds surprising to me. Is it off by default or literally not available? (Google searches have mostly pointed to people wanting to include the JNI/C side of a JVM stack, like https://github.com/async-profiler/async-profiler/issues/215).

debugging native calls in itself is also painful. I have switched to using async-profiler (https://github.com/async-profiler/async-profiler) instead of JFR for most of my usecases.

A. it tracks native calls by default

https://github.com/async-profiler/async-profiler#flame-graph...

Ok, Windows is not supported. But IntelliJ made a fork which works on Windows.

Hi, today I used async-profiler to check the CPU usage of my Spring Boot app (just a normal backend) in production. Surprisingly, Lettuce (Redis) + Mybatis (MySQL) take up most of the CPU time. I am not talking about wall time here, but CPU time, since I know database requests need to wait for milliseconds and thus wall time will be very long. Therefore, I wonder:

You can use async-profiler to see what is happening under the hood.

I have used visual vm quite a bit. https://github.com/async-profiler/async-profiler is also amazing... Throw the binary on the system and fire it up. It also profiles down into native code as well if you do that kind of thing.

I felt out of the loop, thinking that Zero VM was some kind of new distro for OpenJDK but chasing <https://packages.debian.org/sid/openjdk-22-jre-zero#:~:text=...> to <https://sources.debian.org/src/openjdk-11/11.0.23%2B9-1/debi...> lead me to https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/jdk-22-ga/src/hotspot/cp...

It seems that it's a specific CPU target for the Hotspot JIT for non-mainstream architectures (or for research purposes, as I saw mentioned once)

Completely gutted from the OpenJDK, last I checked. See here for the culprit PR: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/18688

> Yes, they're changing one aspect of signal handler use to work around this problem. They're not stopping the use of signal handlers in general. Hotspot continues to use signals for efficiency in general. See https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/9059727df135dc90311bd476...

This whole thread is about SIGSEGV, and specifically their SIGSEGV handling. However, catching normal signals is not about efficiency.

Some of their exception handling is still odd: There is no reason for a program that receives SIGILL to ever attempt continuing. But others is fine, like catching SIGFPE to just forward an exception to the calling code.

(Sure, you could construct an argument to say that this is for efficiency if you considered the alternative to be implementing floating point in software so that all exceptions exist in user-space, but hardware floating point is the norm and such alternative would be wholly unreasonable.)

> The wonderful thing about choosing not to care about facts is having whatever opinions you want.

I appreciate the irony of you making such statement, proudly thinking that your opinion equals fact, and therefore any other opinion is not.

This discussion is nothing but subjective opinion vs. subjective opinion. Facts are (hopefully, as I can only speak for myself) inputs to both our opinions, but no opinion about "good" or "bad", "nasty" or not can ever be objective. Objective code quality does not exist.

I remember talking to Brendan about the PreserveFramePointer patch during my first months at Netflix in 2015. As of JDK 21, unfortunately it is no longer a general purpose solution for the JVM, because it prevents a fast path being taken for stack thawing for virtual threads: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/d32ce65781c1d7815a69ceac...