actix VS diesel

9. Actix

I think it's fairer to say the language got so much more powerful that there wasn't any point making actors a language feature when they can be built from existing orthogonal language features. You're probably looking for actix (not actix-web, just actix). There's also Lunatic built in Rust but supporting any actors compiled to WebAssembly.

Actix is an actor framework for developing concurrent applications built on top of the Tokio asynchronous runtime. It allows multiple actors to run on a single thread, but also allows actors to run on multiple threads via Arbiters. Actors can communicate with each other by sequentially exchanging typed messages.

I’ve seen frameworks for c++ (https://seastar.io/) and rust (https://github.com/actix/actix) which support what you’re describing out of the box.

The actix repository on github doesn't seem to be very active, and everyone seems to be focused on actix-web instead, is anyone out there using plain actix or any other actor-model implementation in Rust?

Rust is also another possibility: it's basically C++ but more modern with added features and safety. It can be tricky to write mathematical stuff in it, because you may not care too much about all the safety concerns Rust forces you to handle, but it can be useful to catch bugs ahead of times. Sadly, Rust seems to have no library for running programs on clusters of PCs, except maybe this one, which takes the Actor model implemented by Actix and runs it on a cluster. I don't know how tricky it is to use the Actor model for a scientific simulation, tho.

I'd just use Actix for that. Make your state an actor and make it a StreamHandler for each of these sources, and that's it - now you just implement the business logic for handling each message in the StreamHandler::handle methods.

However, this isn't even 50% of what's out there: Need raw parallel power (and maybe don't need an async runtime)? Checkout Rayon. Need simple Actors for concurrent processing? Checkout Actix. Need a larger Actor system for fault tolerance/CQRS messaging? Checkout Riker. Damn, I sound like a youtube advert 🤦 - For real though, this is the tip of the concurrency iceberg. There is so much more - and it's growing.

7. Diesel

Both seem nice. However, both of them rely very heavily on prepared statements. Unfortunately, using prepared statements is a no-go when you use connection poolers like pgbouncer, or in my case AWS RDS proxy. A discussion in Diesel indicates that disel is not going to provide any support for disabling prepared stements (https://github.com/diesel-rs/diesel/discussions/3575), and a discussion on sqlx hints that disabling prepared statements is possible, but I haven't found any documentation or examples for it.

In addition we are experimenting with prebuild versions of diesel-cli that can be installed directly. We have a set of prebuilt binaries here. We are interested in feedback about how the provided binaries work on your platform.

First of all thanks for making this great tool. As it happens I currently toy around with using it for diesel-cli releases. See the WIP PR here. I think diesel-cli is a good example of a tool that depends on system libraries as it needs to link native database drivers, so this new release is welcome. Defining the dependencies seems to allow easily building things on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu and x86_64-apple-darwin. It seems to pick up everything in the right way there.

I did look at mysql initially. Then I started checking other crates. Diesel is an Object Relation Model (ORM), I'm not yet keen on taking on the complication of learning ORM, I give this crate a pass in the meantime.

I would recommend people look at diesel from Rust for how nice it could be. https://diesel.rs/ Look at the complex queries example. So much more readable and easier to understand.

Most wanted missing features in diesel

There are two problems with using Rust for web servers:

1. The only production-ready Rust web servers require writing async request handlers. Async Rust is not fun.

2. The only good Postgres client library is async: https://crates.io/crates/sqlx

I'm trying to remedy the first problem with https://crates.io/crates/servlin .

Solving the second problem will be another project. I hope someone else does it. There is https://crates.io/crates/diesel but it has the same problem as async Rust: incomprehensible compiler errors.

Lemmy is written in Rust using Actix Web and Diesel.rs.

https://actix.rs/

https://diesel.rs/