ActiveAdmin VS Simple Form

Can you clarify what's the "tremendous value" you're getting out of the Django admin?

At Heii On-Call https://heiioncall.com/ we are using Active Admin https://activeadmin.info/ for Ruby on Rails, which seems quite similar to the Django admin. In my experience, it's mostly useful as a fairly basic read-only view of what's in the database. In Rails, it's so easy to whip together a custom view that we tend to do that, and the Active Admin is nice to have but I wouldn't say "tremendous value".

Github Link : https://github.com/activeadmin/activeadmin

for those who know [https://activeadmin.info/](https://activeadmin.info/) it uses a file format [https://github.com/activeadmin/arbre](https://github.com/activeadmin/arbre)

Very neat! My first thought was that this was a competitor to https://bullettrain.co/.

Looking into it a bit more, it seems more aimed at building admin panels than whole apps. I guess it competes against tools like https://activeadmin.info/?

We briefly considered migrating to a full-grown Rails admin interface, such as ActiveAdmin, RailsAdmin, Administrate or Avo. We especially liked Avo which is built on a very modern stack similar to ours (Tailwind + Hotwire + ViewComponents). In the end, we didn’t go this route as we found some of the options a bit too restrictive (even though Avo is very flexible) and we did not feel like trying to amend it to our needs. For example, Avo renders forms in a 1-field-per-row layout while we wanted something more similar to the Tailwind UI Stacked form layout. Nevertheless, we found a great deal of inspiration in the Avo code and its design principles.

I second Rails. It's incredibly polished and has really good gems to speed up dev. ActiveAdmin is a great gem if you need to quickly make an admin dashboard. It was useful when I had a small consultancy.

https://activeadmin.info/

See an example: https://activeadmin.info It provides a fast way to create back office functionality.

[1] https://activeadmin.info/

I can't speak much about Rails, as I've only played with it. But I've used a lot Django in the past.

Regarding the Django admin (in rails you have ActiveAdmin[1]) think if it just as a glorified database explorer. It is an internal tool for developers, product managers and maybe for your support team. It is in no way thought to be used by end users. Every attempt I've seen to use it as such was a catastrophic failure.

With Django, if you know plain HTML and CSS, with the tools I've mentioned in the comment you're responding to, you can build almost anything... For example, let's say you need a highly interactive client side table.... you can always just attach a Vue or a React component for it by using Unpoly compilers [2].

I'd say this stack is less useful the more your app needs to work fully offline... but if you don't have that constraint... I cannot think of anything that can't be built faster and safer.

[1] https://activeadmin.info/

[2] https://unpoly.com/up.compiler

I also tend to use gems like simple_form to generate my form HTML, and this saves me from having to maintain a lot of view code to outputting translated content onto forms. Also simple_form has it's own i18n convention that compliments the Rails default pretty well.

I followed the RailsCasts tutorial and its GitHub page to set up the gem in my application and used it for all of the models in my application. It was working perfectly fine showing the default error message at the top and the validation message at the bottom of their respective fields.

Okay now for those "buttons". We don't want just a normal button or link though. This is where we need the booking update form. Let's use simple_form_for (check out the docs here).

There are many ways to create a form in Rails, whether you want to create a form with Form builder from Rails itself or maybe using third party gem like simple_form. Of course, simple_form is not the only option we have to build form in rails, there are alternatives out there such as formtastic, cocoon, nested_form, etc. However, in this post I'm going to give you a basic use case to use simple_form in Rails application.

I usually go with simple_form, I customise my forms by configuring it and letting it handle the repeated rendering.

Simple Form gem

The biggest unclear area that we saw related to view components were forms. There were glimpses of compatibility issues with Rails form helpers in the documentation and we saw a recent effort of the team to mitigate them. Moreover, we were used to building forms with Simple Form which added another variable to the equation. And, in general, we considered the Rails form builders (as well as the Simple Form builder) a system of form-related components in the first place so we were unsure how this would fit into the View Components ecosystem or whether we should even try to do that.

Learn more about simple form: 1) https://github.com/heartcombo/simple_form 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfZk74R2Oi4&t=5s