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9 days ago 2 days ago
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Waterfox

Posts with mentions or reviews of Waterfox. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-29.
  • In 2024, please switch to Firefox
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Dec 2023
    > [Monday](https://github.com/WaterfoxCo/Waterfox/releases/tag/G5.1.9),
  • Waterfox not opening after updating to G6 on Windows 8.1
    1 project | /r/waterfox | 8 Dec 2023
  • Slow Browser Issue
    1 project | /r/firefox | 7 Dec 2023
    With 4GB of RAM I would recommend that you use the ESR version or some lightweight fork like Waterfox that I've been testing these days. Is really lighter and can use Firefox Sync. But it has his problems. I would prefer to go with ESR and deactivating smooth scrolling if I was you.
  • Floorp – a customisable Firefox fork from Japan
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2023
  • Rethinking Window Management in Gnome
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Jul 2023
    > I wish Unity didn't die

    Hi from Unity on Ubuntu 23.04.

    I am running the Unity flavour:

    https://ubuntuunity.org/

    It uses the latest Unity 7.7, released earlier this year:

    https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity-x/unityx

    I run it on 3 or 4 machines, one of which has 2 screens and one of which has 3. Works great, scales well, handles modern Ubuntu just fine.

    I use it with the Waterfox browser, which integrates natively with the Unity global menu bar, without any addons or config. I am currently on -- (hits alt-H, A) -- version 5.1.9.

    https://www.waterfox.net/

  • Waterfox runaway memory usage, vsize-max-contiguous using all the ram
    1 project | /r/waterfox | 13 Jul 2023
    Post issues on Gihtub for reporting bugs. https://github.com/WaterfoxCo/Waterfox/issues
  • Waterfox or Librewolf ?
    1 project | /r/waterfox | 6 Jul 2023
    I've made sure security updates have now been available ASAP for quite a while now. G5.1.9 released on Monday, for example. This is a day before Mozilla, but mostly because Mozilla spend a day or two doing QA.
  • Firefox ESR 115 confirmed to be the last version of Firefox for macOS 10.12, 10.13 and 10.14. Supported until September 2024.
    1 project | /r/mac | 6 Jul 2023
    I've been a fan of Waterfox for some time now
  • Comment le gouvernement veut complètement bloquer les sites illĂ©gaux
    2 projects | /r/france | 1 Jul 2023
  • Trinity Desktop Environment – a modern KDE3 fork
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jun 2023
    https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1201/extend-panel-men...

    Of course, GNOME broke it in a later release. This is why no amount of extensions are an answer: they break. Extensions do not work from one release of GNOME to another, and when they fail, the whole desktop often fails.

    > Also, it’s not really Gnome’s fault that linux doesn’t have as great metadata from apps to be able to display the apps’ menubars (unity could do it).

    False. Gtk exposes this; Unity didn't have stored metadata on lots of apps, it just displayed the existing controls' contents somewhere else. If you run brand new Gtk apps on Unity today, they get panel menus. This was not some clever hack.

    Unity is still around:

    https://unityd.org/

    The distro is back again:

    https://ubuntuunity.org/

    Brand new apps, like Waterfox, integrate with it fine although they did not exist when it was written.

    https://www.waterfox.net/

    > With all due respect, that is bullshit reasoning. Selectively displaying useful things is the whole point of UIs.

    I disagree.

    1. I want to choose what is shown or not. In order to choose, I have to be able to see it. In other words, it needs to be there at first, and then I can choose whether I want to show it or not.

    If I can't see it in the first place, then how am I to know it's there?

    It's the users' choice what is shown or not. It is not up to the developer to say "they don't need to see this and I'm going to hide it away."

    Any piece of software that does that is user hostile.

    > Otherwise why would you roll up your window?

    Again: it's my choice. I get to choose. It's my computer. They are my windows. I choose if they are shown or not.

    That is the point of free software: Choice.

    GNOME says it's free, but it takes choices away from me. I object to that.

    > Why do you have menus in the first place that hide their content until clicked?

    To save space for my document. You can't show everything all the time: that is why you leave it up to the user to choose what they show and when.

    (Incidentally, this is also why in my opinion the Microsoft ribbon based fluent interface fails. It tries to show far too much all at once, and the result is that it wastes a huge amount of screen space, and is actually more difficult to hunt through for what I need when I need it.)

    > That is no longer the corner, so it doesn’t benefit from this law at all.

    False.

    Fitt's law is about target size.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts%27s_law#Implications_for...

    It is not about corners. It is about edges too.

    By the way I do have a clue about this stuff... for example here is a screenshot of a piece of software which I designed about a dozen years which makes use of Fitt's Law.

    https://twitter.com/SimplicityComps/status/54085863397497241...

    > The super key is the same as the windows, or the mac command key.

    So, yes, but those environments don't suddenly change your entire screen.

    > Also often called Meta.

    That is a different key. Meta and super are not interchangeable.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)

    > What’s the problem here exactly? Is alt+f4 written over the screen? Or ctrl+c? Especially that the same behavior is expected from the windows start menu.

    The problem here, as I'm attempting to spell out, is that there were existing conventions for this stuff, and GNOME does not respect them.

    > It’s a community for its users. You clearly don’t use it nor contribute to it either by work or financially, so it is not really fair to ask someone else to work for you specifically..

    No. What I do is, I write about it for a living. I analyse this stuff, I draw comparisons, I point out weaknesses and strengths. That's my job.

    In my professional capacity, the GNOME foundation invited me to its GUADEC conference about six or seven years back. I asked a lot of awkward and difficult questions, because that's my job, and I didn't get invited back.

    > Literally every OS and distro suck at it.

    False. For example, using most other interfaces, such as XFCE, I can treat a multiscreen desktop as one big space. I can have one panel at the far left, and one on the far right, of the entire multi-monitor desktop.

    But GNOME doesn't let me do that.

    Why not?

    > Nonetheless, I feel you are reasoning from a very biased point

    Because I disagree with you, you think that I'm biased?

    Do you think that everyone who disagrees with you is biased?

    Have you considered that perhaps I have opinions, and can draw upon years of knowledge and experience, and make reasoned arguments based on evidence, and that is not the same thing as being biased?

    > I don’t think it is as fruitful a discussion.

    So because I can counter your arguments with examples and reasoning, you don't think that it's fruitful discussion?

    Personally, I think that the arguments where people can defend their points, and produce evidence to back them up, are the most fruitful kind.

PowerToys

Posts with mentions or reviews of PowerToys. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-20.
  • Unlock Web Dev Superpowers with PowerToys
    1 project | dev.to | 23 Mar 2024
    Windows PowerToys GitHub Repo
  • We released a new powerful efficiency tool called RunFlow, which is similar to PowerToys and Alfred, welcome to try it
    2 projects | dev.to | 20 Mar 2024
    RunFlow is a cross-platform productivity tool which can launch apps and search files and more, that similar to Wox and PowerToys on Windows, and also similar like Alfred and Raycast on macOS. But we have differences with these tools, and we have our own unique new features. Right now, at the below, we will introduce you what features of RunFlow have been implemented in more details. It's an amazing journey, let's start.
  • GTK: On fractional scales, fonts and hinting
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Mar 2024
    I'm curious - when you were doing research into the mechanics of hinting options, did you stumble onto any relevant discussion around allowing custom pixel geometries to be defined, to enable hinting on modern OLED / WRBG displays? There's a good thread on the topic here[0], with some people referring to it as 'ClearType 2' on the MS side [1]. On the oss side I know FreeType theoretically supports this[2], but I can't quite figure out how relevant the FreeType backend is to this most recent work.

    This is great work btw.

    [0]: https://github.com/snowie2000/mactype/issues/932

    [1]: https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/25595

    [2]: https://freetype.org/freetype2/docs/reference/ft2-lcd_render...

  • Ask HN: Cleanest way to manage Windows OS?
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Feb 2024
    Thank you all for the informative advices. Here is the summary for those who are in the same situation:

    1. Run Windows on Linux by using VM

    for the applications you can’t run on Linux

    Risks:

    * some softwares may attempt to detect VMs and refuse running

    * Anything what needs to touch hardware may not work.

    2. separate "data" partition on D:

    3. back up %APPDATA% and %USERPROFILE%

    4. learn chocolatey, scoop or winget

    Winget should be good enough

    5. Don’t worry about C:\Program Files

    6. (Mixed) Use/Don’t use Ansible (or saltstack/salt)

    Use:

    * Allows you to setup a new machine quickly and consistently when one breaks, get stolen, or lost in an inconvenient time.

    * You can get a clean and consistent development environment so that you do not depend on anything accidentally installed on the machine.

    * If you define specialised roles, create test playbooks for those individual roles, use these roles to compose more complex playbooks, and offload logic to custom ansible modules that are written in python, you won't wrestle with heavy logic in the template or playbook layer.

    * installing software and pulling some configs and scripts down is fine

    Don’t use:

    * You will spend your days fighting a mix of yaml and Jinja.

    * You will end up looking at Python errors because there are no static types.

    * errors are cryptic.

    7. Use WSL2

    You need 32gb of ram, but ram is cheap so choose a good thinkpad

    8. Debloat with Recommended Tweaks

    Run

    irm christitus.com/win | iex

    from Administrator Terminal (Powershell)

    The link leads to https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/mai...

    VirusTotal

    https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/709834b0e003b6bb546cf16e...

    9. Get [PowerToys](https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys)

    10. Use Devbox for containered environment

    https://www.jetpack.io/devbox

    11. Dual-Booting Linux and Windows

    If you use physically separated drives, you don’t need partitioning.

    12. Dedicated Windows machine for class

    Yes it sure would be the cleanest solution but I prefer one device for everything

    13. keep a git repository with all dot files in it

    Many people suggested me to use virtualization, otherwise just let Windows be Windows.

    Also, backing up seems to be a good practice.

    I’m planning to write a blog about this, if it worked.

    Again, thank you all for the helps!

  • Ask HN: Best Hacks for a Ultrawide Monitor?
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Feb 2024
  • Keypirinha: A fast launcher for keyboard ninjas on Windows
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jan 2024
    Powertoys Run (https://github.com/microsoft/powertoys) can do this. There are not that many plugins as Alfred but Window Switcher is built-in.
  • LAN Mouse is a mouse and keyboard sharing software
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Jan 2024
    For sharing a mouse/keyboard between Windows PCs, there is Mouse Without Borders. It's included in PowerToys nowadays.

    https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys

  • Hrvach/Deskhop: Fast Desktop Switching Device
    20 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Dec 2023
    - https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys
  • How do I type letters with accent marks?
    1 project | /r/OperaGX | 5 Dec 2023
    If you’re on Windows, download PowerToys. It’s an app published by Microsoft officially. Then enable Quick Accent in the settings of PowerToys. Now all you have to do is hold down the key you want accented until the switch shows up, then add an accent with your arrow keys.
  • Microsoft's Powertoys Key Manager now can paste text and unicode by shortcuts
    1 project | /r/ErgoMechKeyboards | 5 Dec 2023
    microsoft/PowerToys: Windows system utilities to maximize productivity (github.com)

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Waterfox and PowerToys you can also consider the following projects:

ungoogled-chromium - Google Chromium, sans integration with Google

Wox - A cross-platform launcher that simply works

clean-flash-builds - Repository of clean Flash Player builds.

AutoHotkey - AutoHotkey - macro-creation and automation-oriented scripting utility for Windows.

Waterfox-Classic - The Waterfox Classic repository, for legacy systems and customisation.

sharpkeys - SharpKeys is a utility that manages a Registry key that allows Windows to remap one key to any other key.

iceraven-browser - Iceraven Browser

Flow.Launcher - :mag: Quick file search & app launcher for Windows with community-made plugins

firefox-scripts - userChromeJS / autoconfig.js and extensions

Fluent-Search - Official repository for Fluent Search, use to report issues or ask for a new feature

waterfox-deb-rpm-arch-AppImage - Unofficial repository with Waterfox Web Browser packages for Ubuntu, Debian (deb), Arch Linux (pkg.tar.xz), Fedora, CentOS 7, Alma, Rocky and openSUSE (rpm) and AppImage packages for all distros following with CentOS 7.

T-Clock - Highly configurable Windows taskbar clock