TinyLlama VS llamafile

Small models: Less than ~1B parameters. TinyLlama and tinydolphin are examples of small models.

GitHub repo with links to the checkpoints: https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama

> While LLM projects typically require an exorbitant amount of resources, it is important to remind ourselves that research does not need to assemble full-fledged massively expensive systems in order to have impact.

Check out TinyLlama; https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama

Four research students from Singapore University of Technology and Design are pretraining a 1.1B Llama model on 3 trillion token using a handful of A100's.

They're also providing the source code, training data, and fine-tuned checkpoints for anyone to run.

The first one was that the minimum learning rate was mistakenly set to the same value as the maximum learning rate in cosine decay, so the learning rate wasn't decreasing. This was discovered relatively early during training and discussed in this issue: https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama/issues/27

Which is a smaller model, that gives good output and that works best with this. I am looking to run this on lower end systems.

I wonder if someone has already tried https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama, could save me some time :)

I thought I'd share something with my experience with HPC that applies to many areas, especially in the rise of GPUs.

The main bottleneck isn't compute, it is memory. If you go to talks you're gonna see lots of figures like this one[0] (typically also showing disk speeds, which are crazy small).

Compute is increasing so fast that at this point we finish our operations long faster than it takes to save those simulations or even create the visualizations and put on disk. There's a lot of research going into this, with a lot of things like in situ computing (asynchronous operations, often pushing to a different machine, but needing many things like flash buffers. See ADIOS[1] as an example software).

What I'm getting at here is that we're at a point where we have to think about that IO bottleneck, even for non-high performance systems. I work in ML now, which we typically think of as compute bound, but being in the generative space there are still many things where the IO bottlenecks. This can be loading batches into memory, writing results to disk, or communication between distributed processes. It's one beg reason we typically want to maximize memory usage (large batches).

There's a lot of low hanging fruit in these areas that aren't going to be generally publishable works but are going to have lots of high impact. Just look at things like LLaMA CPP[2], where in the process they've really decreased the compute time and memory load. There's also projects like TinyLLaMa[3] who are exploring training a 1B model and doing so on limited compute, and are getting pretty good results. But I'll tell you from personal experience, small models and limited compute experience doesn't make for good papers (my most cited work did this and has never been published, gotten many rejections for not competing with models 100x it's size, but is also quite popular in the general scientific community who work with limited compute). Wfiw, companies that are working on applications do value these things, but it is also noise in the community that's hard to parse. Idk how we can do better as a community to not get trapped in these hype cycles, because real engineering has a lot of these aspects too, and they should be (but aren't) really good areas for academics to be working in. Scale isn't everything in research, and there's a lot of different problems out there that are extremely important but many are blind to.

And one final comment, there's lots of code that is used over and over that are not remotely optimized and can be >100x faster. Just gotta slow down and write good code. The move fast and break things method is great for getting moving but the debt compounds. It's just debt is less visible, but there's so much money being wasted from writing bad code (and LLMs are only going to amplify this. They were trained on bad code after all)

[0] https://drivenets.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/blog-networ...

[1] https://github.com/ornladios/ADIOS2

[2] https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp

[3] https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama

As discussed in the original GPT3 paper (https://twitter.com/gneubig/status/1286731711150280705?s=20)

TinyLlama is trying to do that for 1.1B: https://github.com/jzhang38/TinyLlama

As long as we are not at the capacity limit, we will have a few of these 7B beats 13B (or 7B beats 70B) moments.

I think the llamafile[0] system works the best. Binary works on the command line or launches a mini webserver. Llamafile offers builds of Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct, so presumably they may package this one up as well (potentially a quantized format).

You would have to confirm with someone deeper in the ecosystem, but I think you should be able to run this new model as is against a llamafile?

[0] https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile

Thermostats: https://www.sinopetech.com/en/products/thermostat/

I haven't tried running a local text-to-speech engine backed by an LLM to control Home Assistant. Maybe someone is working on this already?

TTS: https://github.com/SYSTRAN/faster-whisper

LLM: https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile/releases

LLM: https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-D...

It would take some tweaking to get the voice commands working correctly.

While I did not succeed in making the matmul code from https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile/blob/main/llamafil... work in isolation, I compared eigen, openblas, and mkl: https://gist.github.com/Dobiasd/e664c681c4a7933ef5d2df7caa87...

In this (very primitive!) benchmark, MKL was a bit better than eigen (~10%) on my machine (i5-6600).

Since the article https://justine.lol/matmul/ compared the new kernels with MLK, we can (by transitivity) compare the new kernels with Eigen this way, at least very roughly for this one use-case.

Yes, they're just ZIP files that also happen to be actually portable executables.

https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile?tab=readme-ov-file...

have you seen llamafile[0]?

[0] https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile

llama.cpp has integrated gemma support. So you can use llamafile for this. It is a standalone executable that is portable across most popular OSes.

https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile/releases

So, download the executable from the releases page under assets. You want either just main or just server. Don't get the huge ones with the model inlined in the file. The executable is about 30MB in size,

https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile/releases/download/...

The improvements in ease of use for locally hosting LLMs over the last few months have been amazing. I was ranting about how easy https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile is just a few hours ago [1]. Now I'm torn as to which one to use :)

1: Quite literally hours ago: https://euri.ca/blog/2024-llm-self-hosting-is-easy-now/

Slightly off topic, here is the best local llama.cpp wrapper I've run into:

https://github.com/Mozilla-Ocho/llamafile

You can download any .gguf model (not just the ones in their examples) and run it locally (as long as you have the ram for it). I was running 7B models with ease on an old FX8350 and now 13B models on a 5600X (32GB RAM on both machines).

This wrapper spins up a local web server that runs a simple web frontend to use immediately with no code, but also exposes an OpenAI compatible API for dev work and alt frontends (like SillyTavern).