Sabaki
KataGo
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21 | 49 | |
2,351 | 3,246 | |
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0.0 | 9.3 | |
about 2 months ago | 16 days ago | |
JavaScript | C++ | |
MIT License | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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Sabaki
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How do I record a played game on Fox?
I like Sabaki, but there's also GoWrite, CGoban (the KGS client), and others (search for "SGF editor"). You can also review .sgf with OGS online, or with AI Sensei. KaTrain is a very good AI client that can review .sgf as well.
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AI review recommendations for Mac?
Actually, you can connect an AI engine like KataGo to Sabaki. You need to install the AI engine separately and understand command lines though.
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I wonder if these ChatGPT answers will every get nuked
I've been using ChatGPT since launch and constantly seeking out examples of how others have been using it. A few years ago I started using KataGo with Sabaki to improve my go-playing abilities. I've known about token embeddings in neural networks before ChatGPT was a twinkle in OpenAI's eye. I was there, but I haven't seen everything you've seen, so please show me. If the truth is that ChatGPT has canned responses to some prompt or set of prompts, then I want to believe that it does. If I have misconceptions about anything, I want to break those misconceptions. As long as your beliefs and mine contradict one another, one of us has the opportunity to learn.
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Tough semeai during one of my recent tournament games. Black to play and kill the triangled group.
It's a feature with sabaki, to make it look resemble a real board more.
- Custom goban… any programs?
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Learning to score a game.
That said, if you can download some sgfs and view them in a tool like [sabaki]((https://sabaki.yichuanshen.de/), you can try and match the score that the computer reports. You can get SGFs from here - other sources are available. Be sure to find games which were won on points. You can't count a game won by resignation.
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Best LOCAL software for AI analysis
I like Sabaki
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Contributing to open-source go projects?
It's a shame because KGS would benefit greatly from a modern client. I think at this point writing a new client from scratch would be preferable, or maybe taking something like [Sabaki](https://sabaki.yichuanshen.de/) and turning it into a KGS client might be viable. Speaking of which, Sabaki is a good option for those looking to contribute to an open source project.
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Do you remember most of your games? Can you visualize the game in your mind? (dan+ players)
Sabaki has the "guess" mode which is great for this.
- here's what i've been coding
KataGo
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After AI beat them, professional Go players got better and more creative
> KataGo was trained with more knowledge of the game (feature engineering and loss engineering), so it trained faster.
Not really important to your point, but it's not really just that it uses more game knowledge. Mostly it's that a small but dedicated community (especially lightvector) worked hard to build on what AlphaGo and LeelaZero did. Lightvector is a genius and put a lot of effort into KataGo. It wasn't just add some game knowledge and that's it. https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo?tab=readme-ov-file#tra... has a bunch of info if you're interested.
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Monte-Carlo Graph Search from First Principles
Immediately recognise the author as the genius behind KataGo: https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo
- Request for help getting two specific outputs from the Katago AI engine
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KataGo should be partially resistant to cyclic groups now
(also, if you want to donate GPU time, https://katagotraining.org/ would be happy to have more people contributing to training as well!)
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Man beats machine at Go in human victory over AI
> Kellin Pelrine, an American player who is one level below the top amateur ranking, beat the machine by taking advantage of a previously unknown flaw that had been identified by another computer. But the head-to-head confrontation in which he won 14 of 15 games was undertaken without direct computer support.
My take: what Kellin Pelrine really exploited is that the AI can't learn and adapt. Even GPT can't learn or adapt to anything beyond its context window. It took a computer to find and teach him the winning strategy, and it probably took a lot longer than AlphaGo did to train. But once he learned, he had the advantage; meanwhile AlphaGo never adapted and learned to counter the strategy itself, because it can't.
One thing to note is that he beat KataGo [1] and Leela Zero [2], but not AlphaGo or AlphaZero, because the AlphaGos aren't public. So it's possible he wouldn't actually beat the real AlphaZero with this strategy. But considering the strategy he used works in theory work against any model with AlphaGo/AlphaZero's design (he beat Leela Zero which has the exact same model), and Leela Chess and Stockfish are apparently better than AlphaZero now; I think he would still win.
[1] https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo
[2] https://github.com/leela-zero/leela-zero
Experimentally, KataGo did also try some limited ways of using external data at the end of its June 2020 run, and has continued to do so into its most recent public distributed run, "kata1" at https://katagotraining.org/. External data is not necessary for reaching top levels of play, but still appears to provide some mild benefits against some opponents, and noticeable benefits in a useful analysis tool for a variety of kinds of situations that don't occur in self-play but that do occur in human games and games that users wish to analyze.
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I wonder if these ChatGPT answers will every get nuked
I've been using ChatGPT since launch and constantly seeking out examples of how others have been using it. A few years ago I started using KataGo with Sabaki to improve my go-playing abilities. I've known about token embeddings in neural networks before ChatGPT was a twinkle in OpenAI's eye. I was there, but I haven't seen everything you've seen, so please show me. If the truth is that ChatGPT has canned responses to some prompt or set of prompts, then I want to believe that it does. If I have misconceptions about anything, I want to break those misconceptions. As long as your beliefs and mine contradict one another, one of us has the opportunity to learn.
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Human Go players beat top Go AIs using a "trick"
For some stuff besides LCB, see https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/blob/master/docs/KataGoMethods.md for a summary of a few more recent other things KataGo added that hadn't been done in earlier bots.
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DeepMind has open-sourced the heart of AlphaGo and AlphaZero
I'd suggest KataGo, which is much stronger and more actively developed than Leela Zero https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo
- KataGo changes training framework from TensorFlow to PyTorch
What are some alternatives?
online-go.com - Source code for the Online-Go.com web interface
alpha-zero-boosted - A "build to learn" Alpha Zero implementation using Gradient Boosted Decision Trees (LightGBM)
katrain - Improve your Baduk skills by training with KataGo!
GoAIRatings - Estimate Go AI ratings by real games
Upsided-Sabaki-Themes - Various themes for the Sabaki go app
lizzie - Lizzie - Leela Zero Interface
traducao_como_jogar_go - Tradução do livro "How to Play Go: A Concise Introduction", por Richard Bozulich e James Davies, da editora Kiseido
nnue-pytorch - Stockfish NNUE (Chess evaluation) trainer in Pytorch
watchGo - Go board recognition: Find a Go board in an image and read the game position. Written with Python and OpenCV.
BadukMegapack - Installer for various AI Baduk softwares