Rudra VS prusti-dev

If you’re writing unsafe Rust, you might consider cargo miri and Rudra as additional static analyzers which can find bugs rustc won’t

In my opinion, much of Rust-specific PhD research likely to be publishable and/or high impact either falls into verification (e.g Prusti, Cruesot) or bug-finding (e.g. Rudra, SyRust). Ralf Jung and his collaborators have done exceptional work in the verification space.

Perhaps Rudra as well.

Haven't used it myself, but I remembered a tool called Rudra was recently posted about in the sub

Not sure proves your point, but maybe doesn't disprove your point strongly enough. I am not qualified to argue from experience about how Rust is ideally suited in the ways you think it is not. But from everything I have seen, it can do a whole lot of what C++ is also good at. Rust safety is not all or nothing and a codebase could definitely prioritize ergonomics over correctness.

Two things that I saw in the last couple weeks that might start to sway you.

https://github.com/sslab-gatech/Rudra#readme

GhostCell: Separating Permissions from Data in Rust

> The overall goal would be to figure out classical error conditions like nill pointers deference.

> If I can figure out if a pointer will be nil in some execution branch, there is no reason why a computer cannot do the same.

Note, this is called flow-sensitive typing (also called type narrowing) and I think that typescript does it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow-sensitive_typing

> I personally would see this as an human race level upgrades. Imagine feeding your code to a CI that spit back something like: "you will have a panic at line 156 when your input is > 4"

A model checker can do that!

See this

https://model-checking.github.io/kani/tutorial-kinds-of-fail...

Other techniques are also possible

https://github.com/viperproject/prusti-dev#quick-example

(Here I could link a lot of things, I just selected two Rust projects to illustrate)

This works better if you are able to provide contracts in your API that says which guarantees you provide. Alternatively, asserts are useful too.

You might be interested in the Prusti project, which statically checks for absence of reachable panics, overflows etc. It also allows user-defined specifications such as pre and post-conditions, loop body invariants, termination checking and so on.

https://github.com/viperproject/prusti-dev

This is called refinement types and prusti might be the project you saw.

But there's also a lot of exciting work around formal verification like Prusti.

prusti

Efforts: seL4, Project Everest, the Prossimo project of the ISRG, Let's Encrypt, and Prusti for the Rust language

Wow that sounds really cool! I'm not an expert but does that mean that one day you could implement dependend types or refinement types in Rust as a crate ? I currently only know of tools like: Flux Creusot Kani Prusti