Relm4 VS rustc_codegen_gcc

There is Relm (https://relm4.org/). Which is in Rust is just GTK (through it's Rust bindings) with a nice reactivity layer on top.

I’d recommend you checking out https://relm4.org if you know a little Rust. Relm4 is currently the easiest and most intuitive way to write GTK

Relm4 might make your migration easier. It has factories which make it easy to create lists (both sync and async) and recently added TypedListView as another useful abstraction over pure gtk-rs. There is a lot of potential in Rust + GTK, you just have to find idiomatic abstractions.

Did you try Relm? It's an implementation is the elm architecture (think react) on top of Gtk. Given your experience with Gtk it might suit you really well, as you can even take only parts of it and continue using bare Gtk for the rest. Give it a try!

What about relm4? Is it generally feature complete? Can one use relm4 for most things, and drop to gtk4 for the oddball task that is not supported?

https://relm4.org/

Using this example: https://github.com/Relm4/Relm4/blob/main/examples/simple.rs

What advantage would this Rust crate have over Relm4? It seems pretty similar to me, save for the property based syntax that Forte has, instead of the set_* ones used on Relm4.

If you like Rust I recommend Relm4, one of the best experiences I’ve had with a framework tbh, be sure to learn gtk-rs first.

Alternatively, there's another initiative called codegen_gcc which is about using GCC as a backend for the rustc compiler. It's (much) more advanced in Rust support, but I am not sure how easy it would be to use a modified libgccjit from there.

In addition to what others have said about platform support, Rust is also on its way to gaining more platform support through rustc_codegen_gcc, the GCC codegen backend for rustc, as an alternative to the LLVM backend. That means many of the platforms GCC supports will suddenly become available with Rust.

Yeah, rustc_codegen_gcc is a GCC backend for rustc, and its making a lot of good regular progress.

gcc-rs is one of two projects for bringing Rust to gcc. gcc-rs is the more ambitious of the two, with an entirely new frontend. There is also rustc_codegen_gcc (https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc_codegen_gcc) that keeps the rustc frontend, and only swaps out LLVM for GCC at the codegen stage.

Fixing unwinding in release mode is still ungoing. I could use some help here, so anyone with some understanding of unwinding, landing pads or GCC, please come on this issue to discuss this.

Additionally, there is gcc codegen for rustc (https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc_codegen_gcc), which is not a compiler per se, but an alternative code generator, with more architectures supported and other nice things. It's also coming along, but there's still a lot of work to do there too. There's also Cranelift codegen (https://github.com/bjorn3/rustc_codegen_cranelift), which is designed to make debug builds faster, but this is not as exciting/useful as the other 2.

Good idea. I added the tag "help wanted" to the issue.

Also, there are indeed ABI issues, e.g. for 128-bit integers and NaN.

I'm excited about both the backend & the frontend.

There is also a project for rustc to use GCC instead of LLVM for codegen.

https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc_codegen_gcc