PyOxidizer VS maturin

Bundling Python isn't too bad if you find the right tools for it.

I really like https://github.com/indygreg/python-build-standalone and https://github.com/indygreg/PyOxidizer

A bundled, built standalone Python can be 16 to 32MB (including the full standard library, which you can strip down to just the bits you use to save size). Not tiny, but probably not worth switching programming languages over.

But really, I would suggest thinking about what you want to build before "how" or "with which tool" - one of the signs of a person becoming a good engineer is having an array of tools at their disposal and being able to choose a correct tool for the correct task. Rust also excels in integrating with other languages - with JS via WebAssembly (a bit of self-promotion, for example), with Elixir via Rustler, with Python via PyO3 and PyOxidizer, etc. So you absolutely can start writing a frontend app with JS, or a distributed system with Elixir, or a data processing/ML app with Python and use Rust to speed up critical parts of those. Or, in reverse, you can start with Rust & add new capabilities to whatever you're building, that being a frontend, a resilient chat interface, or an ML model.

Thank you, although this is not exactly on topic. I'd not heard of PyOxidizer, but it appears to have the same goal as PyInstaller, py2exe, and cx_Freeze -- as the PyOxidizer readme says, it produces

Here is some example Github Action from PyOxidizer as a Kickstarter: https://github.com/indygreg/PyOxidizer/blob/main/.github/workflows/build-exe.yml

A starting point to try out binary modules by the way would be https://github.com/indygreg/PyOxidizer - could already have benefits by rolling in all dependencies of modules (so no more pip/apt/dnf/... installs on target hosts). Setting this up should be relatively straightforward and could probably be automated enough to even manage to build binary modules for all modules in the community ansible distribution eventually.

PyOxidizer might be another option.

XAR signing is effectively just an RFC 5652 CMS signature plus some minimal data structure manipulation. Code at https://github.com/indygreg/PyOxidizer/blob/faa7dfcea5d66bf5....

Mach-O and bundles, by contrast, require a myriad of additional data structures requiring thousands of lines of code to support. To my knowledge, nobody else has implemented signing of these far-more-complicated primitives. (Existing Mach-O signing solutions just do ad-hoc signing and/or don't handle Mach-O in the context of a bundle.)

This story unfolds as a captivating journey where the agile Flounder, representing the Python programming language, navigates the vast seas of coding under the wise guidance of Sebastian, symbolizing Rust. Central to their adventure are three powerful tridents: cargo, PyO3, and maturin.

-- Maturin on GitHub

My new favorite way to write very fast libraries for Python is to just use Rust and Maturin:

https://github.com/PyO3/maturin

It basically automates everything for you. If you use it with Github actions, it will compile wheels for you on each release for every platform and python version you want, and even upload them to PyPi (pip) for you. Everything feels very modern and well thought out. People really care about good tooling in the Rust world.

Python first, you will be able to experiment quickly with the notebooks. Then maybe write (or rewrite) some modules in Rust that you can expose as python modules, with py03 and maturin. Feel free to publish useful packages on both crates.io and pypi.org, so you can contribute to Python and Rust ecosystems.

Now if you really want to use Rust, you can rewrite only the part that are slowing down your consumer. It's easy by using Py03 and maturin. Maybe also rayon to parallelize.

It's relatively easy to extend Python with project like Py03[0] and Maturin[1]. Polars[2] is the perfect example of that.

It's not easy to push coworkers/companies to use an unfamiliar language. Rust isn't fast to learn. You need very good arguments and a good usecase to make it works.

I doubt that learning Rust will help you more that learning more about the data engineers tools, so this isn't really "worth" your time.

[0] -- https://pyo3.rs/v0.18.3/

[1] -- https://github.com/PyO3/maturin

[2] -- https://www.pola.rs/

In this case, PyO3/maturin does all the setup and getting the module into Python. They also have docs going into a lot more depth on this.

Lastly if you're willing to introduce Rust, I'd consider a gradual approach using native libraries built in rust with PYO3. Check the maturin guide that helps you to streamline the build process of native libraries : https://github.com/PyO3/maturin . From there you could try to find hotspots in your python app and replace those with a native implementation.