Cello VS terra

Compare Cello vs terra and see what are their differences.

Cello

Higher level programming in C (by orangeduck)

terra

Terra is a low-level system programming language that is embedded in and meta-programmed by the Lua programming language. (by terralang)
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Cello terra
18 38
6,238 2,669
- 0.5%
0.0 5.1
8 months ago 26 days ago
C C++
GNU General Public License v3.0 or later GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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Cello

Posts with mentions or reviews of Cello. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-04.
  • Libcello – higher level C programming
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Mar 2024
  • The NSA list of memory-safe programming languages has been updated
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Mar 2024
  • Object-oriented Programming with ANSI-C [pdf]
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Jun 2023
    Yes, that's C. C macros can take you quite far. Unfortunately because it's just a bunch of macros, it's quite brittle. Like high level abstractions created with macros in assembly language. You have to do all the checking and reasoning about it since the compiler cannot.

    [1] https://libcello.org/

  • Better C Generics: The Extendible _Generic
    9 projects | /r/C_Programming | 28 Jan 2023
    It took me a long time to understand, coming from higher level programming, that a lot of exactly that "higher level" is just systematic fat pointer conventions. And because pointers-with-metadata is not a first-class language construct, we invent all these languages that codify a particular fat pointer convention. Cello is an example of what kinds of abstractions can be built on top of a tiny little bit of (non-native) fat pointer convention.
  • OOP in C
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Jan 2023
    There is a lightweight object oriented extension to C called Objective-C [1] that unfortunately never gained much traction outside the NeXT/Apple ecosystem. There is also Cello [2].

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C

    [2] https://github.com/orangeduck/Cello

  • Ask HN: Modern C Libraries
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Oct 2022
    Regular expressions library to validate information before dumping to rocksdb.

    https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Regular-E...

    Non-critical implimentation fun, use cello [1] for 'gawk' functionality in C with C++ objects/classes.

    [1] https://libcello.org/

  • What does the ??!??! operator do in C?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Oct 2022
  • Is it possible to make C as safe as Rust?
    3 projects | /r/C_Programming | 29 Sep 2022
    You can achieve a fairly decent runtime safety for some types of project. Check out libcello and my own monster (libstent, lame presentation).
  • Ask HN: I like studying the concept of abstractions
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Sep 2022
    towards lisp related data structures / algorithms (aka recursive tree data structures & algorithms).

    So, no distinction between metadata vs. structual storage unless noted.

    Anything beyond that tends towards masters & upper level undergraduate level material. aka review the implimentation of a programming language for algorithm & data structure usage per language features.

    aka Autonoma / regular expressions backround: Lisp in Small Pieces by Christian Queinnec; ; https://github.com/aalhour/awesome-compilers; On Lisp by Paul Graham; Let over Lambda by Doug Hoyte; C 'macro's pushed to maximum effect : https://libcello.org/

        Left out Comparison of languages; Transform from lang a to lang b; and language implimentation as discussions tend to assume masters / upper level undergraduate knowledge
  • Cake: C23 Front End and Transpiler C23 – C99
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Sep 2022
    with skills like this, mind to push cello forward? https://github.com/orangeduck/Cello really like it but not skillful enough to do it myself.

terra

Posts with mentions or reviews of terra. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-10-19.
  • Mojo is now available on Mac
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Oct 2023
    Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

  • Why Fennel?
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Sep 2023
  • Two-tier programming language
    6 projects | /r/ProgrammingLanguages | 19 Apr 2023
    Terra is the language you're looking for: https://terralang.org/
  • Using Lua with C++
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Feb 2023
  • Bog – small, strongly typed, embeddable language
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Jan 2023
  • Nelua, AOT statically typed Lua
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Jan 2023
    Wow, amazing stuff. I love Lua, it was how I learned programming as a kid. Coincidently from the same world as the author. Open Tibia.

    The author made a custom client (https://github.com/edubart/otclient) for the game that is still very much in active use by thousands of players. He's a very skilled developer.

    Great to see AOT typed Lua, I know of the other solutions: Luau, Teal, TypeScriptToLua, Terra, etc., but this one is my favorite so far.

    Love the simple compilation to C (and WASM support via Emscripten). Though Terra's JIT is enticing and good replacement for LuaJIT, this is for embedded systems, it's a good replacement for Lua PUC-Rio.

    The World:

    - https://luau-lang.org/

    - https://terralang.org/

    - https://github.com/teal-language/tl

    - https://typescripttolua.github.io/

  • Idris: A Language for Type-Driven Development
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Jan 2023
    Terra is a language that can also do that, and uses Lua as the metaprogramming language. Types are just Lua values.

    But unfortunately, there's a lot of work left kind of half-baked so using the language is a pain... if someone invested a lot of time to make Terra work properly and added some tooling around it, wrote proper docs and so on, it would be a really interesting language.

    https://terralang.org/

  • OOP in C
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Jan 2023
  • Noob question about what's possible with comptime
    1 project | /r/Zig | 14 Dec 2022
    (I am slightly familiar with a language called Terra (https://terralang.org), which couples C with Lua, where the Lua is basically used as the metaprogramming layer ... sort of like comptime in Zig. And making an SOA data structure is the kind of thing you could do in Lua in Terra. So that was partly the basis for my question).
  • Upcoming RISC-V laptop promises free silicon upgrades
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Jul 2022
    > why can't the hardware designer do something simple and clean

    If it was easy, it would not need firmware in the first place. Firmware is there because people expect certain features and quality of life. See softmodems.

    > write some assembly (without abusing the assembler preprocessor...)

    You want https://terralang.org/ and not "just C"/"just Assembler" instead ?

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Cello and terra you can also consider the following projects:

vos - Vinix is an effort to write a modern, fast, and useful operating system in the V programming language

nelua-lang - Minimal, efficient, statically-typed and meta-programmable systems programming language heavily inspired by Lua, which compiles to C and native code.

cfront-3 - self education and historical research of the C++ compiler cfront v3

LuaJIT - Mirror of the LuaJIT git repository

glibc - GNU Libc

zig - General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.

v-mode - 🌻 An Emacs major mode for the V programming language.

ravi - Ravi is a dialect of Lua, featuring limited optional static typing, JIT and AOT compilers

infer - A static analyzer for Java, C, C++, and Objective-C

titan - The Titan programming language

rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32