Improving Interoperability Between Rust and C++

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  • poly-match

    Source for the "Making Python 100x faster with less than 100 lines of Rust" blog post

  • Not my experience at all. At work we rewrote a small bit of hotspot python in Rust with no issues. This was what we primarily followed: https://ohadravid.github.io/posts/2023-03-rusty-python/

  • rust-cpp

    Embed C++ directly inside your rust code!

  • I am the current passive maintainer of the cpp crate: https://github.com/mystor/rust-cpp

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  • specification

    Ferrocene Language Specification (by ferrocene)

  • Many people misunderstand how software is written in regulated industries, and assume that a standard is necessary. In practice, this is not the case. Note that Ferrocene[1] had to produce a specification[2] in order to qualify the compiler. But there isn't a requirement that it must be a standard in any way, only that it describes how the Ferrocene compiler works. Nor that it be accepted by upstream.

    1: https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/officially-qualified-ferroc...

    2: https://github.com/ferrocene/specification

  • granian

    A Rust HTTP server for Python applications

  • Yeah, PyO3 is great. I've tried to play around with releasing the GIL from rust in Python 3.12. I would enjoy writing a WSGI/ASGI server with a Celery runtime at some point too. Or contribute to Granian.

    https://github.com/emmett-framework/granian

  • rust-playground

    The Rust Playground

  • In rust as currently stands: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&editio...

    On the other hand, both this wrapper and yours are counterproductive if the element size is dynamic (e.g. perhaps you're dealing with some nonsense like:)

        struct ITableColumn {

  • thindx-xaudio2

    Rust bindings for XAudio2

  • Vtables are pretty solved as well. I do a lot of Windows COM interop. Using the `windows` crate, vtables for COM interfaces are relegated to an implementation detail - instead you simply implement a (typically safe!) trait:

    https://microsoft.github.io/windows-docs-rs/doc/windows/Win3...

    Which can then be converted to a refcounted smart pointer:

    https://microsoft.github.io/windows-docs-rs/doc/windows/Win3...

    All driven by win32 sdk parsing and metadata.

    But suppose we want to roll our own, because we tend to prefer `winapi` but it lacks definition. That's not too terrible either:

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    I could more heavily lean on my macros ala `windows`, but I went the route of manual control for better doc comments, more explicit control of thread safety traits to match the existing C++ codebase, etc.

    Is there some pointer casting? Yes. Is it annoying or likely to be what breaks? No. What is annoying?

    • Stacked borrows and narrowing spatial provenance ( https://github.com/retep998/winapi-rs/issues/1025 - this can be "solved" by sticking to pointers ala `windows`, or by choosing a different provenance model like rustc might be doing?)

    • Guarding against panics unwinding over an FFI boundary. This is at least being worked on, but remains unfinished ( https://rust-lang.github.io/rfcs/2945-c-unwind-abi.html )

    • Edge case ABI weirdness specific to C++ methods ( https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20220113-00/?p=10... , https://github.com/retep998/winapi-rs/issues/523 )

  • winapi-rs

    Rust bindings to Windows API

  • Vtables are pretty solved as well. I do a lot of Windows COM interop. Using the `windows` crate, vtables for COM interfaces are relegated to an implementation detail - instead you simply implement a (typically safe!) trait:

    https://microsoft.github.io/windows-docs-rs/doc/windows/Win3...

    Which can then be converted to a refcounted smart pointer:

    https://microsoft.github.io/windows-docs-rs/doc/windows/Win3...

    All driven by win32 sdk parsing and metadata.

    But suppose we want to roll our own, because we tend to prefer `winapi` but it lacks definition. That's not too terrible either:

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    • https://github.com/MaulingMonkey/thindx-xaudio2/blob/master/...

    I could more heavily lean on my macros ala `windows`, but I went the route of manual control for better doc comments, more explicit control of thread safety traits to match the existing C++ codebase, etc.

    Is there some pointer casting? Yes. Is it annoying or likely to be what breaks? No. What is annoying?

    • Stacked borrows and narrowing spatial provenance ( https://github.com/retep998/winapi-rs/issues/1025 - this can be "solved" by sticking to pointers ala `windows`, or by choosing a different provenance model like rustc might be doing?)

    • Guarding against panics unwinding over an FFI boundary. This is at least being worked on, but remains unfinished ( https://rust-lang.github.io/rfcs/2945-c-unwind-abi.html )

    • Edge case ABI weirdness specific to C++ methods ( https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20220113-00/?p=10... , https://github.com/retep998/winapi-rs/issues/523 )

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