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I didn't bash Java/Kotlin. In fact, I have written few android apps in Kotlin, Java and I also have fiddled with Jetpack compose, JNI and NDK (I have also played with mpv's Opengl/Vulkan's rendering on Android if that matters to you). I don't want to share the projects of mine because i don't want to reveal my identity.
> https://gioui.org/
I know that tailscale's android application is written in it but i don't think gioui is great for android apps.
> Tell me you've never done any Android development, without telling me...All this Java/Kotlin bashing is getting really old, especially for a forum like this one.
Ok, this one hurts. Why are you attacking me instead of defending your stance. All are allowed to have opinions and I am allowed to have one(It's sad to explain this to someone on forum like this one). I dream of Linux-desktop kinda situation where you can program in any language you want, where you are not hindered by any platform/framework, where you have complete freedom and where you don't want to be bothered/(vendor locked-in) by Bigcorps(looking at you Google services framework).
> write GUIs in a non-GC language like Rust which _has_ to run on what's essentially a Java VM (ART).
Haha, non-GC languages power the GUIs on Android fyi. Jetpack compose is powered by Skia. Chromium is powered by Skia. Skia is C++.
Please do your own research before commenting low-effort replies.
Isn't this what Tauri wants to achieve? At least it's on the roadmap I mean.
https://tauri.app/
Does anyone have any experience creating production apps with Tauri? Seems like a sane alternative to Electron, especially if they can target all major platforms and keep the promise of smaller footprints.
You can already. The ndk allows any language to be compiled to android. For rust see
https://github.com/rust-mobile/ndk
Which has the tools to do this.
The traditional alternative to Electon on mobile platforms is Capacitor (which uses the system webview):
https://capacitorjs.com/
(fka Apache Cordova, fka PhoneGap)
> Since 80s everybody designs systems on top of C.
More like since the 1990's, and mostly thanks to the GNU Manifesto and FOSS uptake that took the steam out of C++ adoption being pushed by Apple, IBM and Microsoft.
There is firmware in production written in Go,
https://www.withsecure.com/en/solutions/innovative-security-...