Installing Debian bookworm without systemd

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  • void-packages

    The Void source packages collection

    > I would love if a major distro emerges

    Good news for you! You have slackware [0], void [1] and alpine [3], which are widely-used non-systemd distributions with sane scripts. They are well-maintained rolling releases which allow you to use much newer versions of the kernel and packages than your typical ubuntu/debian installs. I don't particularly care about systemd, but these distros are great by themselves!

    [0] http://www.slackware.com/getslack/

    [1] https://voidlinux.org/

    [2] https://www.alpinelinux.org/

  • systemd

    The systemd System and Service Manager

    I was finally coming around to systemd. Then they broke my laptop.

    https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/25269

    I'm still livid at this Luca guy gaslighting people on the "correct" behavior of a feature people were using for years already. They re-purposed an existing sleep mode and changed it entirely to mean something else. Originally you would set a timeout that your laptop would suspend and then hibernate. They changed it to mean that your laptop suspends until your battery hits 5% and then hibernates. As if people want to open their laptop the next morning only to have no battery left.

    Ironically, the stated reason for this change was to "prevent data loss". Guess what they did? They introduced a bug in this "fix" that guaranteed your laptop would not wake from hibernate. You had to reboot the damn laptop each time you woke from hibernate because it would get stuck on a black screen, thus "losing" your data. I "lost" more data from their stupid fix than anything else.

    They admit the original feature was broken because it didn't take into consideration for battery percent. Fine. But there was absolutely no reason to change the behavior. You can do both! The only reason I can think of is you just like being an incredible asshole to people. Which is obvious from that thread. Do they even use a laptop? Why would I want a dead battery next time I open the lid???

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