Ask HN: What is the most pleasant, uncomplicated full stack to start with?

• Wails

  64 22,317 9.4 Go

  Create beautiful applications using Go

  

I have built Web front-ends (React or Svelte) with Go-backend. Embed in a web-view to make it a native desktop app, or get funky and give it native chrome/menus etc. [Wails](https://github.com/wailsapp/wails) is a good candidate to start if you want to cut on boiler plate.

• htmx

  568 32,837 9.6 JavaScript

  </> htmx - high power tools for HTML

  

I've been researching JS frameworks recently for a personal project. Like you, my experience is with backend, old-school Django-style HTML multi-page apps, with some interactivity in specific parts of a page.

Things I thought that were cool and were genuinely exciting:

- https://htmx.org - this is my favorite option. It's primarily meant to replace AJAX requests that dynamically update the DOM (which is already a big win IMO). For more complex UI interactions, you'll still need JS or Hyperscript.

- https://hyperscript.org - wasn't immediately sold on this one like with HTMX. It's built by the same people as HTMX though. My favorite thing about it is it makes async transparent (no callback hell)

- Svelte, SolidJS - lumping these together since they look about the same from my point of view. Looks very easy for someone like me to build complex dynamic UIs. But still feels a bit too heavy for my tastes (Default setup is for full-blown SPAs)

- Go - awesome standard library. I needed to adjust to the lack "one framework to rule them all".

- Clojure/ClojureScript - Like Go, there's no "the one framework". Being able to use the same language for backend/frontend, including code sharing, is pretty sweet.

In the end, I chose Clojure + ClojureScript. I aws already familiar with Clojure, and with some wrangling/trial-error, I managed to get a ClojureScript setup that lets me write small interactive components that I can embed into specific parts of plain old .html files.

I intend to use HTMX for AJAX stuff, and ClojureScript for more complex interactivity. Haven't gotten very far yet, but that's the plan.

• SurveyJS

  surveyjs.io featured

  Open-Source JSON Form Builder to Create Dynamic Forms Right in Your App. With SurveyJS form UI libraries, you can build and style forms in a fully-integrated drag & drop form builder, render them in your JS app, and store form submission data in any backend, inc. PHP, ASP.NET Core, and Node.js.

  

• lilnotion

  1 67 10.0 JavaScript

  A fullstack Notion clone built with React, Redux, Ruby on Rails, and PostgreSQL

OP asked for a full stack solution so that's what I gave him. There's no reason you can't use rails and something like react on the frontend for building a SPA Notion clone. Rails may seem like overkill for an API-only mode but I think it's perfectly useable and pleasant to develop that way.

Just did a quick google search and this is the first result I found: https://github.com/brandonfang/lilnotion

• sorbet

  53 3,528 9.9 Ruby

  A fast, powerful type checker designed for Ruby

  

• frontend

  1 1,374 0.0 JavaScript

  The official @github repository of the Trovebox frontend software. A photo sharing and photo management web interface for data stored "in the cloud" (i.e. Amazon S3, Rackspace CloudFiles, Google Storage). (by photo)

  

Not sure why you think 20 year old PHP code would be difficult to refactor. It's extremely backwards compatible and things don't change much at all.

I have a couple large projects written in PHP from 10-20 years ago that I'm sure I could refactor or make changes to easily.

https://github.com/photo/frontend

• photos

  1 5 10.0 PHP

  personal photo gallery (by jmathai)

• yew

  201 29,948 8.3 MDX

  Rust / Wasm framework for creating reliable and efficient web applications

  

Wasm to the rescue - https://go-app.dev/, https://yew.rs/.

I enjoy it as much as Vue 1.0 before we had bundlers, transpilers, builders and what not.

• InfluxDB

  www.influxdata.com featured

  Power Real-Time Data Analytics at Scale. Get real-time insights from all types of time series data with InfluxDB. Ingest, query, and analyze billions of data points in real-time with unbounded cardinality.

  

• go-app

  52 7,705 4.2 Go

  A package to build progressive web apps with Go programming language and WebAssembly.

Wasm to the rescue - https://go-app.dev/, https://yew.rs/.

I enjoy it as much as Vue 1.0 before we had bundlers, transpilers, builders and what not.

• Rector

  114 8,241 9.9 PHP

  Instant Upgrades and Automated Refactoring of any PHP 5.3+ code

  

Also, see this: https://github.com/rectorphp/rector

Instant Upgrades and Automated Refactoring of any PHP 5.3+ code

• roq-kickstarter-nextjs

  2 9 1.4 TypeScript
  

It really depends on what you want to build. For typical web applications (e.g. SaaS) this stack is almost perfect:

Next.js for client- and server-side development (alternatively look at Remix). It's a big advantage to use Typescript on both sides instead of mixing programming languages like JS + Rust or GO (or PHP, Python, Ruby ...).

In case you need a database (MySQL or Postgres) then PrismaORM is your best friend. Amazingly good ORM which does all the heavy-lifting for you.

For hosting without database Vercel is the obvious solution. In case you need a database, then look at a good PaaS like Render.com (or if you are in EU then scalingo.com). In any case don't waste time with building infrastructure.

In case you want to see a full application, check out our open-source Kickstarter.

Repo: https://github.com/roqtech/roq-kickstarter-nextjs

• roq-kickstarter-nextjs-prisma-marketplace

  1 3 10.0 TypeScript

  A Kickstarter app with several examples of ROQ integration

  

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