zulip-archive VS selfhost

You can do search engine indexing via https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive; it defaults to archiving your public access streams.

We will eventually support search engine indexing without the extra overhead of running a separate archive tool (likely as an organization-level settings checkbox, since not everyone who wants public access wants search engine indexing).

I've also mentioned this in a separate comment in the post but reposting here for visibility:

To clarify Zulip let's you export their conversations and then render it by generating a static HTMl similar to https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/ You'd have to use https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive to achieve. You can see it in the Caveats sections in their documentation https://zulip.com/help/public-access-option#caveats They are working on it here: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/21881

Zulip has both a business model and an official archiving tool.

Yes, the web-public view is being actively worked on: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues?q=label%3A%22area%3A+w...

There’s also a separate zulip-archive project that exports Zulip streams to static HTML: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive

Search engine indexing is available in Zulip today via Zulip's public archive tool (https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive). Many larger OSS projects using Zulip, like Rust, Julia, and Lean Prover, use it.

We expect to have a native feature allowing a configurable set of streams to be browsed using a real Zulip web app UI without creating an account, available in beta in the next few weeks; we're actively integrating the implementation via https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/18532.

We plan to look at optional search indexing in that native implementation once the logged-out access feature is complete complete.

I lead the Zulip project.

I'm not sure about this detail of Slack's ToS. At a technical level, you can certainly export your data from a Slack (which is we implement https://zulip.com/help/import-from-slack); I imagine it's easy to write a tool to format and publish it.

FWIW Zulip maintains https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive, which is a configurable API-based tool for creating a static HTML archive from a Zulip organization, with tooling to update it every few minutes. A lot of larger open projects use it. (We're also working on a native logged-out access feature with less janky formatting, which has a working PR that we need to integrate).

I suppose you could export your data from Slack, import it into Zulip, and then publish that using zulip-archive if you didn't want to write any code, but I'm sure the formatting would be better preserved if one avoided the "convert Slack markup to Zulip markup" step.

It's quite sad Slack and Discord are often the first choice for open communities. They are siloed and unless you are deliberately searching in a specific workspace, you'll never run into the information in a search engine.

In comparison, Zulip:

- provides HTML export functionality https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive#zulip-html-archive (example https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive )

- URLs are nice and encode meaning (e.g. https://memex.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/279601-hpi/topic/...)

I just started using Pyinfra to wrangle a bunch of servers and it is a breath of fresh air compared to Ansible. I moved all of my server OS installs to Fedora CoreOS which doesn't ship with Python in the OS and since Pyinfra doesn't need Python on the host node I can kick off tasks in bulk to do server things. It is great. I cannot wait to see where the Pyinfra project goes.

On a side note, one of the most hacky things I came up with to get Ansible working on Fedora CoreOS was to bind mount a container rootfs that had python 3 and then symlink it into the right spots. You can of course add Python in with rpm-ostree if you want but I wanted to avoid layering packages at the time. I wasn't proud of it. But it worked.

https://github.com/forem/selfhost/blob/main/playbooks/templa...

This is not the suggested way of deployment by the forem team, nevertheless I found it easier and smother than using the deployment selfhost, however I think it's good to know different approaches and use the one suits you the most, if you don't have time to manage a server I think using a pass like Render does the job, and it's cheaper then Heroku at the time of this post.

Forem Self-Host. You should probably know Forem. But in case you don't, just know that DEV is hosted on it.

I only use Podman for my workloads these days. Docker was always a headache for me on Linux. Podman allows me to quickly do whatever I want with containers and I can use systemd or a simple bash script to easily create services on my workstation or in production with Nomad with https://github.com/hashicorp/nomad-driver-podman

I am super thankful for the team of developers that work on Podman. It has really come a long way since 2.0 and they are very responsive to issues in my experiences. If you are using Linux as your daily driver and you use Containers give Podman a try. Here are some examples of the things I have done with Podman.

https://github.com/forem/selfhost

https://github.com/jdoss/ppngx

https://gist.github.com/jdoss/25f9dac0a616e524f8794a89b7989e...

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Hi, everyone; I just tried the tutorial for deploying a self-hosted instance of forem (https://github.com/forem/selfhost) on AWS. A step in the tutorial asks for the creation of an AWS user with Programmatic access called forem-selfhost with the following

We (I work for Forem) have an opensource selfhost installer [0] so you can have total control over your data and community too.

[0] https://github.com/forem/selfhost

If you know what Forem you want to build, please follow the instructions and go live — again, the Self-Host instructions are available here!