fetch VS wp-calypso

Ya done a few headless wp installs. I authored this https://github.com/wp-headless/fetch

I agree with you that Automattic needs a paradigm shift (massive leadership change, probably), but I don’t think the openness of their software is the problem.

Just because they have a huge number of OSS projects. Most of it is open source, even things that really don’t see 3rd party contributions (like https://github.com/Automattic/vip-go-mu-plugins, https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso, https://github.com/Automattic/redvelvet-lib, https://github.com/Automattic/newspack-plugin, https://github.com/Automattic/pocket-casts-ios)

Automattic has other issues (leadership, especially!!) but software development happens largely in the open. Just look at the GH issues and PRs in the WP-calypso and Gutenberg repositories, and you’ll see even a lot of technical discussion and planning happening completely public. You can even chime in if you want :)

Automattic has lots of issues. But they simply have much more open software development practices than nearly any other tech company (most of which are completely private and closed source). I just don’t think this is the core problem.

Auttomatic Open Source Docker Open source Those are two i can think of that use those technologies, read the “contribution” part on github. If you search “open source projects” and the technologies you know, you’ll find even more. :)

The WP dashboard can, and has been rewritten in React, see Calypso, but it was rejected by wp.org community at the time (likely for the reasons you mentioned).

> Unless the new Wordpress is written in node, comparing the new “JavaScript” stack with the old “LAMP” stack makes no sense to me. Those technologies do not serve the same purpose.

It's written in JavaScript; it runs on node.js - at least the front-end part of it (https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso). I don't know what is running on the backend but I don't think it's LAMP.

The point I was making though is that "WordPress" can mean two different things - wordpress.org (the self-hosted LAMP version) or wordpress.com, which is a SaaS offering (so the language is more or less irrelevant unless you're really interested in running your own admin frontend, I guess).