vpncloud VS coolify

Another tool worth looking at is vpncloud (https://github.com/dswd/vpncloud). I used to use tinc, but switched to vpncloud 2 years ago.

In my use case, I have a modest number of nodes. Although nodes learn of other nodes from each other, I use ansible to keep each node's config updated.

I use vpncloud (and previously, tinc) between docker hosts. So, you have to be careful about interface MTU's inside of docker, particularly if you use containers based on Alpine.

I think one of the reasons is that people confuse physical servers with manual administration. As I said, I do not do manual administration. Nothing ever gets configured on any server by hand. All administration is through ansible.

I only have one ansible setup, and it can work both for virtualized servers and physical ones. No difference. The only difference is that virtualized servers need to be set up with terraform first, and physical ones need to be ordered first and their IPs entered into a configuration file (inventory).

Of course, I am also careful to avoid becoming dependent on many other cloud services. For example, I use VpnCloud (https://github.com/dswd/vpncloud) for communication between the servers. As a side benefit, this also gives me the flexibility to switch to any infrastructure provider at any time.

My main point was that while virtualized offerings do have their uses, there is a (huge) gap between a $10/month hobby VPS and a company with exploding-growth B2C business. Most new businesses actually fall into that gap: you do not expect hockey-stick exponential growth in a profitable B2B SaaS. That's where you should question the usual default choice of "use AWS". I care about my COGS and my margins, so I look at this choice very carefully.

I'm not a fan of IPFS (I've tried it many times, from the beginning), but Hypercore has made significant improvements. If you're looking for FLOSS mutable torrents, that's probably the best we've got right now (as scary as that may be). Cockroachdb, VPNCloud, and raTox might also be worth your time. At the very least, I could see value in making it expensive to play whack-a-mole on those who are willing to host. Ideally, it would be effortless to mirror or contribute back.

This is my first quick try deploying SvelteKit with the open source software Coolify by Andras Bacsai.

With a serverful approach, you can avoid these drawbacks, and the main challenge lies in selecting the platform that aligns with your requirements. Options may include AWS, Render, DigitalOcean, and others. While VPS is also an option, it's generally not recommended due to the significant setup and maintenance overhead involved (logging, monitoring, CI/CD pipelines, etc.). However, you can make your life easier by leveraging tools like Coolify that help managing your VPS.

Heroku and similar providers can simplify the server management issues, but you can use something much better that can combine both cost efficiency and ease of deployment—Coolify:

> VPSs being “easy to manage” is a strong option full of assumptions.

There are definitely many footguns with managing a VPS but I think the threshold to get vaguely competent with a VPS is not really that far off with getting familiar with the average cloud platform - which comes with its own dangers, like the near-total inability to put an upward cap on fees that that person found out with Netlify recently.

Having a $5 VPS and knowing it's never going to cost your more than $5 might balance out a lot of things on the other side for a lot of people.

(And, as a bonus, it comes with the benefit of having a better idea of what is going on on the actual computer which is running your code.)

Platforms like https://coolify.io/ (which I have not tried, but looks interesting) seem to give you some of the abstractions that you get in cloud platforms to save you having to mess with too much low level stuff and become an expert in a billion separate systems.

If you have Debian with automatic updates that does most of the heavy lifting for you. The hardest problem I have is resisting the temptation to just install everything, because the cost to do it is capped at my VPS monthly fee.

So yep, it comes with a lot of assumptions. But so does everything!

https://coolify.io/ might be worth a look

The modern iteration of these tools has taken the developer experience learnings from the Platform as a Service (PaaS) category, and will bring them to your own VM, giving you your own personal PaaS. Example of this include Dokku, Coolify, Caprover, Cloud66 and many more!