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31 | 56 | |
1,936 | 4,580 | |
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9.4 | 9.1 | |
2 days ago | about 4 hours ago | |
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Apache License 2.0 | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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vello
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Rive Renderer – now open source and available on all platforms
I'm looking forward to doing careful benchmarking, as this renderer absolutely looks like it will be competitive. It turns out that is really hard to do, if you want meaningful results.
My initial take is that performance will be pretty dependent on hardware, in particular support for pixel local storage[1]. From what I've seen so far, Apple Silicon is the sweet spot, as there is hardware support for binning and sorting to tiles, and then asking for fragment shader execution to be serialized within a tile works well. On other hardware, I expect the cost of serializing those invocations to be much higher.
One reason we haven't done deep benchmarking on the Vello side is that our performance story is far from done. We know one current issue is the use of device atomics for aggregating bounding boxes. We have a prototype implementation [2] that uses monoids for segmented reduction. Additionally, we plan to do f16 math (which should be a major win especially on mobile), as well as using subgroups for various prefix sum steps (subgroups are in the process of landing in WebGPU[3]).
Overall, I'm thrilled to see this released as open source, and that there's so much activity in fast GPU vector graphics rendering. I'd love to see a future in which CPU path rendering is seen as being behind the times, and this moves us closer to that future.
[1]: https://dawn.googlesource.com/dawn/+/refs/heads/main/docs/da...
[2]: https://github.com/linebender/vello/issues/259
[3]: https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/4306
- WebKit Switching to Skia for 2D Graphics Rendering
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Looking for this. html + css rendering through wgpu.
Dioxus is working on this with blitz. It's leveraging wgpu through the linebender group's Vello renderer. Still in early stages.
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A note on Metal shader converter
If you're doing advanced compute work (including lock-free data structures), then it's best effort.
https://github.com/linebender/vello/issues/42 is an issue from when Vello (then piet-gpu) had a single-pass prefix sum algorithm. Looking back, I'm fairly confident that it's a shader translation issue and that it wouldn't work with MoltenVK either, but we stopped investigating when we moved to a more robustly portable approach.
- Vello: An experimental WebGPU-based compute-centric 2D renderer in Rust
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XUL Layout has been removed from Firefox
There are a number of up-and-coming Rust-based frameworks in this niche:
- https://github.com/iced-rs/iced (probably the most usable today)
- https://github.com/vizia/vizia
- https://github.com/marc2332/freya
- https://github.com/linebender/xilem (currently very incomplete but exciting because it's from a team with a strong track record)
What is also exciting to me is that the Rust GUI ecosystem is in many cases building itself up with modular libraries. So while we have umpteen competing frameworks they are to a large degree all building and collaborating on the same foundations. For example, we have:
- https://github.com/rust-windowing/winit (cross-platform window creation)
- https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu (abstraction on top of vulkan/metal/dx12)
- https://github.com/linebender/vello (a canvas like imperative drawing API on top of wgpu)
- https://github.com/DioxusLabs/taffy (UI layout algorithms)
- https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-text (text rendering and editing)
- https://github.com/AccessKit/accesskit (cross-platform accessibility APIs)
In many cases there a see https://blessed.rs/crates#section-graphics-subsection-gui for a more complete list of frameworks and foundational libraries)
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Drawing and Annotation in Rust
blessed.rs lists these three crates for 2D drawing: - https://lib.rs/crates/femtovg - https://lib.rs/crates/skia-safe - https://github.com/linebender/vello
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Recommended UI framework to draw many 2D lines?
Vello (https://github.com/linebender/vello) which uses wgpu to render Edit: just saw you require images. Vello doesn't support those yet
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Announcing piet-glow, a GL-based implementation of Piet for 2D rendering
How does this relate to Vello? Both target raw-window-handle for winit compatibility. Vello uses WGPU vs piet-glow using GL.
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Is WGPU actually a good idea yet?
Finally, maybe vello could help you with ideas. It's not production ready yet, but they have some interesting ideas for 2D rendering using wgpu.
gpuweb
- WGSL Is Terrible
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WebGPU now available for testing in Safari Technology Preview
People keep spreading this incredibly misleading statement, and yours is even more misleading (suggesting Apple opposed a 'GPU WASM')
By all accounts, Apple's /only/ stance was that if WebGPU used SPIR-V it would be a non-starter for them, due to ongoing legal issues between Apple and Khronos.
Apple actually proposed WebHLSL in collaboration with Microsoft, to have HLSL be the standard.
Mozilla employee's stance[0] was that SPIRV was too low level, did not fit with the goals of WebGPU portability and security, and expressed concern that Khronos may add functionality to SPIRV they cannot support in WebGPU like raytracing instructions .. 'So we'd always be on the verge of forking SPIR-V in some way.'
It was also noted by many people that even if a bytecode format was used, it would still have to be translated to the target (HLSL/DXIL, MSL, etc.) in almost the same way a text format would.
Nobody proposed a 'GPU WASM equivalent' or an alternative bytecode format.
The hard truth is that shader compilation is a fucking nightmare, people do not realize how bad it is across the different native APIs. SPIR-V is good, but it doesn't solve that - and presents other challenges if you are a web browser API. Vulkan and SPIRV are not the golden goose many make them out to be.
[0] https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/847#issuecomment-642...
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Show HN: WebGPU Particles Simulation
Yes it is still a bit new. WebGPU is not finished and is still being worked on: https://webgpu.io/
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Capturing the WebGPU Ecosystem
WebGPU currently doesn't support the "bindless" resource access model (see: https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/380).
The "max number of sampled texture per shader stage" is a runtime device limit, and the minimal value for that seems to be 16. So texture atlasses are still a thing in WebGPU.
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Why aren't we using highly efficient int8 calcualtions in quants? (maybe eli14?)
There's even an implementation under discussion to have the dp4a instruction added to WebGPU (https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/2677)
- WebGPU – All of the cores, none of the canvas
- How to get Chromium working with the Vulkan driver on a RPi4?
- Anyone has Chromium WebGPU working?
- [Rust_Gamedev] WGSL est-il un bon choix?
- I want to talk about WebGPU
What are some alternatives?
nanovg - Antialiased 2D vector drawing library on top of OpenGL for UI and visualizations.
wgsl.vim - WGSL syntax highlight for vim
msdfgen - Multi-channel signed distance field generator
pyodide - Pyodide is a Python distribution for the browser and Node.js based on WebAssembly
Vrmac - Vrmac Graphics, a cross-platform graphics library for .NET. Supports 3D, 2D, and accelerated video playback. Works on Windows 10 and Raspberry Pi4.
noclip.website - A digital museum of video game levels
troika - A JavaScript framework for interactive 3D and 2D visualizations
BestBuy-GPU-Bot - BestBuy Bot is an Add to cart and Auto Checkout Bot. This auto buying bot can search the item repeatedly on the ITEM page using one keyword. Once the desired item is available it can add to cart and checkout very fast. This auto purchasing BestBuy Bot can work on Firefox Browser so it can run in all Operating Systems. It can run for multiple items simultaneously.
tinyraytracer - A brief computer graphics / rendering course
wgpu-rs - Rust bindings to wgpu native library
compute-shader-101 - Sample code for compute shader 101 training
WASI - WebAssembly System Interface