veilidchat VS sydent

> Veilid is a peer-to-peer network and application framework released by the Cult of the Dead Cow on August 11, 2023, at DEF CON 31. Described by its authors as "like Tor, but for apps", it is written in Rust, and runs on Linux, macOS, Windows, Android, iOS, and in-browser WASM. VeilidChat is a secure messaging application built on Veilid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veilid

> Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework.

> The framework is conceptually similar to IPFS and Tor, but faster and designed from the ground-up to provide all services over a privately routed network.

> The framework enables development of fully-distributed applications without a 'blockchain' or a 'transactional layer' at their base.

> The framework can be included as part of user-facing applications or run as a 'headless node' for power users who wish to help build the network.

https://veilid.com/

https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

https://veilid.com/discord

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1lKscAMDQ

> VeilidChat is a chat application written for the Veilid distributed application platform. It has a familiar and simple interface and is designed for private, and secure person-to-person communications.

https://veilid.com/chat/

https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat

Previously:

Veilid is an open-source, P2P, mobile-first, networked application framework

GitHub Discussions can also be a great place for support as long as these are regularly monitored. Another option along the same lines is Discourse and the Open Source Matrix which is used by quite a few Open Source and community-based projects.

Tangential: the article notes that Telegram is an “encrypted messaging app”. While this is technically true, it's worth keeping in mind that it's not end-to-end encrypted, so it's less secure in that regard than, say, Signal or even WhatsApp. Telegram does have opt-in end-to-end encrypted one-on-one chats, but those are very inconvenient to use.

For a properly encrypted chat app, including group chats (opt-in), try Matrix instead: https://matrix.org/

I'd love something like the Matrix [0] data model (JSON messages aggregated in an eventually-consistent chatroom CRDT) transmitted over something like simplex for metadata resistance.

[0] https://matrix.org

Trillian mod here. There's this new thing called Beeper, works on matrix.org. It's not as the good old times, but I'm currently using whatsapp, FB messenger, discord, telegram, signal, imessage and a few more. It's not Cerulean experience, but it's... slowly improving.

I'm trying to change my account provider from "matrix.org" to whatever Element One needs, and for the life of me I just don't understand what values I have to put where to be able to log in. I tried `element.io`, which takes me to sso.element.io but this doesn't seem like the right thing (no credentials work as I expect.