v-mode VS koka

Fingers crossed for vlang[0]. It's like golang with better types and more syntactic sugar. Feels like a proper upgrade from Python.

I really hope they succeed.

[0]: https://vlang.io/

And again a No true Scotsman. If that's the kind of attitude you have towards languages, you'll appreciate V infinitely more than you might be appreciating Rust. After all, it offers better solutions than Rust, like autofree, they just aren't there yet :)

I discovered VLang today. It's an interesting project.

According to their own benchmarks, Seed7 can run faster than C (it compiles to C, but it's entirely possible the emited code is better optimized than a human could write directly in C)... it doesn't have a GC BUT manages memory automatically (I didn't really follow the explanation in the FAQ, something about automatically freeing variables that go out of scope and keeping only one reference around?)... that's like a current pipe dream for language designers! From https://vale.dev/ to https://vlang.io/, no one has pulled that off yet, to my knowledge... has Seed7 done that all those years ago?!

Help V programming language to gain more popularity and show to game development community that this is a good language for game development

Try http://vlang.io

This post by the Koka-author is an update about what's currently being worked on: https://github.com/koka-lang/koka/discussions/339

Some programming language like JS, use path-based imports, that's not good for making a stabel API.

See https://api-extractor.com/pages/setup/configure_rollup/#:~:text=(The%20API%20Extractor,with%20that%20effort.)

And https://github.com/koka-lang/koka/issues/31#issuecomment-1482200826

It also offers a great Inversion of Control mechanism where everything is customisable, and, unlike Capability Objects, AESs also offer compatibility with type inference (you can pass functions doing IO to map, and it Just Works(TM)) and first-class control over stack frames (because really a continuation function is just some stack frames, which you can manually move to the heap if you want a closure; which means async is an effect!). It also is composable in ways Monads are not.

Koka and other languages implementing Algebraic Effect Systems make everything a user-defined case of coroutines: async is just another effect/Monadic type. Zig does something similar by having first class stack frames, making all function calls possibly asynchronous.

Super interesting, there is a proposal to add this to JavaScript and several languages that use this, unison, koka & eff. I had no idea this was even a thing!

Koka, already cited in this thread, early 2010s. Koka's first claim to fame was a usable effect system (at the type were, basically, effect systems were not usable in practice; in fact few languages have managed to do as well as Koka since). Now its author is working on cool implementation strategies for functional languages as well.

I'm a software engineer with 3 years of professional experience. I worked for 2 years at Microsoft on Azure Compute and now work at Google, working on improving Google search. I am the sole maintainer of the popular open-source library microlens with 80k downloads. I've also contributed to the Koka programming language developed at Microsoft Research.

By implementing all of those optimizations in the Koka programming language, they achieved GC overhead much less and execution time faster than the other languages including OCaml, Haskell, and even C++ in several algorithms and data structures that frequently keep common sub-structures of them, such as red-black trees. For more information, see the latest version of the paper.