tlaplus VS quint

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https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/blob/master/tlatools/org....

In any case, our whole team thinks TLA is great, and we're happy people like you and Ron find it so useful and insightful. We also think it is a very insightful.

There are no tests! There are various ways to test concurrent data structures. You could use a stress test, where you spawn a lot of threads and let them mutate the map in a random way and then check the consistency of the map and some invariants. You could learn TLA+ and write a formal model of the map and then verify it.

Dafny and Whiley are two examples with explicit verification support. Idris and other dependently typed languages should all be rich enough to express the required predicate but might not necessarily be able to accept a reasonable implementation as proof. Isabelle, Lean, Coq, and other theorem provers definitely can express the capability but aren't going to churn out much in the way of executable programs; they're more useful to guide an implementation in a more practical functional language but then the proof is separated from the implementation, and you could also use tools like TLA+.

https://dafny.org/

https://whiley.org/

https://www.idris-lang.org/

https://isabelle.in.tum.de/

https://leanprover.github.io/

https://coq.inria.fr/

http://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html

I wish something like Lamport's TLA+ (https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html) was supported in modern language compilers - perhaps with annotations/macros and a mini formal DSL.

Checking the invariant with assert is also useful in my limited experience with concurrency.

https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html

One advantage of formal methods is in determining "what was expected" (including all the goofy edge cases) without having to burrow into the details of code.

Take a look at Alloy (http://alloytools.org/) and TLA+ (https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html) for example. (Or even the ancient Z ("Zed") notation (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~15819/zedbook.pdf)).

The pcal generator does *not* generate a definition for the set of labels. However, some users have suggested to add such a feature: https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/613

Hi! I wrote a blogpost exploring a formal specification in Quint [1] for the secret santa game, and verifying some of its properties with Apalache [2].

Hope you enjoy it, and any feedback is welcome. Happy holidays!

[1]: https://github.com/informalsystems/quint

I can sympathize! We are aiming to maintain most of the expressive power of TLA+ -- ideally everything you need for a concise, high-high level specification, that can be simulated and/or verified -- but with surface syntax that is more approachable coming from a programming background. If you're interested in seeing how it maps to TLA+, you can find much of that in this document: https://github.com/informalsystems/quint/blob/main/doc/lang....

We still have lots of ways to improve, and -- we think -- lots of opportunities to improve our interop and complementary qualities in relation to TLA+ and TLC. But we have found the tools in their current state useful enough to be worth sharing :)

It's still in pretty early development, but you may be interested in https://github.com/informalsystems/quint

> It combines the robust theoretical basis of the Temporal Logic of Actions (TLA) with state-of-the-art static analysis and development tooling.

And it is typed ;)