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tlaplus
- Ask HN: Usefulness of formal verification (Coq) and formal verification (TLA+)?
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Quint: A specification language based on the temporal logic of actions (TLA)
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https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/blob/master/tlatools/org....
In any case, our whole team thinks TLA is great, and we're happy people like you and Ron find it so useful and insightful. We also think it is a very insightful.
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Concurrent Data-structure Design Walk-Through
There are no tests! There are various ways to test concurrent data structures. You could use a stress test, where you spawn a lot of threads and let them mutate the map in a random way and then check the consistency of the map and some invariants. You could learn TLA+ and write a formal model of the map and then verify it.
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In Which I Claim Rich Hickey Is Wrong
Dafny and Whiley are two examples with explicit verification support. Idris and other dependently typed languages should all be rich enough to express the required predicate but might not necessarily be able to accept a reasonable implementation as proof. Isabelle, Lean, Coq, and other theorem provers definitely can express the capability but aren't going to churn out much in the way of executable programs; they're more useful to guide an implementation in a more practical functional language but then the proof is separated from the implementation, and you could also use tools like TLA+.
https://dafny.org/
https://whiley.org/
https://www.idris-lang.org/
https://isabelle.in.tum.de/
https://leanprover.github.io/
https://coq.inria.fr/
http://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html
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Programming Languages Going Above and Beyond
I wish something like Lamport's TLA+ (https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html) was supported in modern language compilers - perhaps with annotations/macros and a mini formal DSL.
- Ask HN: How you understand TLA+ and how you use TLA+ in your projects?
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A collection of lock-free data structures written in standard C++11
Checking the invariant with assert is also useful in my limited experience with concurrency.
https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html
- Ask HN: Is writing a math proof like programming without ever running your code?
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What I've Learned About Formal Methods in Half a Year
One advantage of formal methods is in determining "what was expected" (including all the goofy edge cases) without having to burrow into the details of code.
Take a look at Alloy (http://alloytools.org/) and TLA+ (https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html) for example. (Or even the ancient Z ("Zed") notation (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~15819/zedbook.pdf)).
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How do I get the set of process identifier of PlusCal?
The pcal generator does *not* generate a definition for the set of labels. However, some users have suggested to add such a feature: https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/613
coq
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Change of Name: Coq –> The Rocq Prover
The page summarizing the considered new names and their pros/cons is interesting: https://github.com/coq/coq/wiki/Alternative-names
Naming is hard...
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The First Stable Release of a Rust-Rewrite Sudo Implementation
Are those more important than, say:
- Proven with Coq, a formal proof management system: https://coq.inria.fr/
See in the real world: https://aws.amazon.com/security/provable-security/
And check out Computer-Aided Verification (CAV).
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Why Mathematical Proof Is a Social Compact
To be ruthlessly, uselessly pedantic - after all, we're mathematicians - there's reasonable definitions of "academic" where logical unsoundness is still academic if it never interfered with the reasoning behind any proofs of interest ;)
But: so long as we're accepting that unsoundness in your checker or its underlying theory are intrinsically deal breakers, there's definitely a long history of this, perhaps more somewhat more relevant than the HM example, since no proof checkers of note, AFAIK, have incorporated mutation into their type theory.
For one thing, the implementation can very easily have bugs. Coq itself certainly has had soundness bugs occasionally [0]. I'm sure Agda, Lean, Idris, etc. have too, but I've followed them less closely.
But even the underlying mathematics have been tricky. Girard's Paradox broke Martin-Löf's type theory, which is why in these dependently typed proof assistants you have to deal with the bizarre "Tower of Universes"; and Girard's Paradox is an analogue of Russell's Paradox which broke more naive set theories. And then Russell himself and his system of universal mathematics was very famously struck down by Gödel.
But we've definitely gotten it right this time...
[0] https://github.com/coq/coq/issues/4294
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In Which I Claim Rich Hickey Is Wrong
Dafny and Whiley are two examples with explicit verification support. Idris and other dependently typed languages should all be rich enough to express the required predicate but might not necessarily be able to accept a reasonable implementation as proof. Isabelle, Lean, Coq, and other theorem provers definitely can express the capability but aren't going to churn out much in the way of executable programs; they're more useful to guide an implementation in a more practical functional language but then the proof is separated from the implementation, and you could also use tools like TLA+.
https://dafny.org/
https://whiley.org/
https://www.idris-lang.org/
https://isabelle.in.tum.de/
https://leanprover.github.io/
https://coq.inria.fr/
http://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/tla.html
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If given a list of properties/definitions and relationship between them, could a machine come up with (mostly senseless, but) true implications?
Still, there are many useful tools based on these ideas, used by programmers and mathematicians alike. What you describe sounds rather like Datalog (e.g. Soufflé Datalog), where you supply some rules and an initial fact, and the system repeatedly expands out the set of facts until nothing new can be derived. (This has to be finite, if you want to get anywhere.) In Prolog (e.g. SWI Prolog) you also supply a set of rules and facts, but instead of a fact as your starting point, you give a query containing some unknown variables, and the system tries to find an assignment of the variables that proves the query. And finally there is a rich array of theorem provers and proof assistants such as Agda, Coq, Lean, and Twelf, which can all be used to help check your reasoning or explore new ideas.
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Functional Programming in Coq
What ever happened to the effort [1] to rename Coq in order to make it less offensive? There were a number of excellent proposals [2] that seemed to die on the vine.
[1] https://github.com/coq/coq/wiki/Alternative-names
[2] https://github.com/coq/coq/wiki/Alternative-names#c%E1%B5%A3...
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Mark Petruska has requested 250000 Algos for the development of a Coq-avm library for AVM version 8
Information about the Coq proof assistant: https://coq.inria.fr/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coq
- How are people like Andrew Wiles and Grigori Perelman able to work on popular problems for years without others/the research community discovering the same breakthroughs? Is it just luck?
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Basic SAT model of x86 instructions using Z3, autogenerated from Intel docs
This type of thing can help you formally verify code.
So, if your proof is correct, and your description of the (language/CPU) is correct, you can prove the code does what you think it does.
Formal proof systems are still growing up, though, and they are still pretty hard to use. See Coq for an introduction: https://coq.inria.fr/
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What are the current hot topics in type theory and static analysis?
Most of the proof assistants out there: Lean, Coq, Dafny, Isabelle, F*, Idris 2, and Agda. And the main concepts are dependent types, Homotopy Type Theory AKA HoTT, and Category Theory. Warning: HoTT and Category Theory are really dense, you're going to really need to research them.
What are some alternatives?
dafny - Dafny is a verification-aware programming language
coc.nvim - Nodejs extension host for vim & neovim, load extensions like VSCode and host language servers.
apalache - APALACHE: symbolic model checker for TLA+ and Quint
kok.nvim - Fast as FUCK nvim completion. SQLite, concurrent scheduler, hundreds of hours of optimization.
stateright - A model checker for implementing distributed systems.
FStar - A Proof-oriented Programming Language
awesome-programming-languages - The list of an awesome programming languages that you might be interested in
Agda - Agda is a dependently typed programming language / interactive theorem prover.
adventofcode - Advent of Code solutions of 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 in Scala
lean4 - Lean 4 programming language and theorem prover
Corinna - Corinna - Bring Modern OO to the Core of Perl
coq.vim - Pathogen-compatible distribution of Vicent Aravantinos' vim scripts for Coq.