Tink VS fish-shell

> I wonder what people say when they find a bug despite you using standard crypto?

Not using TLS doesn't automatically mean you need to "roll your own crypto". They could have used a well documentend library such as Google Tink[1] instead of doing their own crypto.

[1] https://github.com/google/tink

I sort of rewrote google's tink project in rust. There is already a rust version by project oak but it didn't exactly jive.

PassManager uses the Tink library for encryption, which provides state-of-the-art** security for your passwords. Tink uses industry-standard encryption algorithms like AES to ensure that your passwords are kept safe from prying eyes.

Note that in the example jwt refers to the Tink jwt package.

What I can't tell is if the new version had any fixes related to the bug being discussed here

Even the slightest hiccup could leave me vulnerable. I don't want to roll my own encryption. I want to use something like tink (a secure crypto library by Google) but unfortunately they don't support node or Javascript (there's a library that was published 2 years ago).

I dont have an answer for you, but 2 resources that are worth checking out: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/security/cryptography and https://developers.google.com/tink

> Do C (or something where the mapping to C is known), and lots of languages have FFI libs where wrapping that is fairly trivial

That is an interesting idea, yet still a lot of work, sadly. I was hoping somebody had done the legwork already. I looked at Tink [1] and age [2] based on my co-worker's recommendation, but they all seem to have limited implementations in other languages.

[1] https://github.com/google/tink

[2] https://github.com/FiloSottile/age

Reminds of the note at the bottom of Fish's releases. It's there because the build system cannot determine the current version for some reason. Hopefully that will go away now that they have switched to a different language / build system. The custom tarball is used by Arch Linux at the very least.

https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/releases/tag/3.7.1

https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/7772#issueco...

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fi...

A recent practical example of the former: the fish shell re-wrote incrementally from C++ to Rust, and is almost finished https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/discussions/10123

An example of the latter: c2rust, which is a work in progress but is very impressive https://github.com/immunant/c2rust

It currently translates into unsafe Rust, but the strategy is to separate the "compile C to unsafe Rust" steps and the "compile unsafe Rust to safe Rust" steps. As I see it, as it makes the overall task simpler, allows for more user freedom, and makes the latter potentially useful even for non-transpiled code. https://immunant.com/blog/2023/03/lifting/

And this discussion from November has an update on the progress: https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/discussions/10123

We're using bash as our terminal shell for now (it is standard in many distros) but it is not the only one out there. If you want to test out zsh, fish or oh-my-zsh, you will see that there are a few differences and the features are usually the main differentiator. Try that, poke around.

They have a variety of reasons to move to rust, as outlined in their original rust discussion[1]. Mostly around finding other contributors, and adding an async/parallel mode they're comfortable with.

[1] https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/pull/9512