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tinc
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Would we still create Nebula today?
But both Nebula and tinc max out at around 1 Gbit/s on my Hetzner servers, thus not using most of my 10 Gbit/s connectivity. This is because they cap out at 100% of 1 CPU. The Nebula issue about that was closed due to "inactivity" [2].
I also observed that when Nebula operates at 100% CPU usage, you get lots of package loss. This causes software that expects reasonable timings on ~0.2ms links to fail (e.g. consensus software like Consul, or Ceph). This in turn led to flakiness / intermittent outages.
I had to resolve to move the big data pushing softwares like Ceph outside of the VPN to get 10 Gbit/s speed for those, and to avoid downtimes due to the packet loss.
Such software like Ceph has its own encryption, but I don't trust it, and that mistrust was recently proven right again [3].
So I'm currently looking to move the Ceph into WireGuard.
Summary: For small-data use, tinc and Nebula are fine, but if you start to push real data, they break.
[1]: https://github.com/gsliepen/tinc/issues/218
[2]: https://github.com/slackhq/nebula/issues/637
[3]: https://github.com/google/security-research/security/advisor...
- Which overlay network?
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Tailscale/golink: A private shortlink service for tailnets
From a purely networking perspective, there are far better solutions than tailscale.
Have a look at full mesh VPNs like:
https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
https://github.com/yggdrasil-network/yggdrasil-go
https://github.com/gsliepen/tinc
https://github.com/costela/wesher
These build actual mesh networks where every node is equal and can serve as a router for other nodes to resolve difficult network topologies (where some nodes might not be connected to the internet, but do have connections to other nodes with an internet connection).
Sending data through multiple routers is also possible. They also deal with nodes disappearing and change routes accordingly.
tailscale (and similar solutions like netbird) still use a bunch of "proxy servers" for that. You can set them up on intermediate nodes, but that have to be dealt with manually (and you get two kinds of nodes).
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Tunneling to Synology NAS without opening ports.
Two other options are Tinc https://tinc-vpn.org/ or Nebula https://www.defined.net/nebula/
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Port Forward Security & Alternatives
And there is Tinc; the OG overlay network. I don't have experience with this. Seemed a bit of a pain to setup. https://tinc-vpn.org
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WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
For what its worth I have used the open source Tinc VPN [1] for mesh multihop routing for ages. It is nowhere near as fast as Wireguard but I could envision Tinc incorporating support for Wireguard if the author were so inclined. Like you mentioned Tinc does not mesh with other VPN's AFAIK.
[1] - https://tinc-vpn.org/
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You may not need Cloudflare Tunnel. Linux is fine
This is actually very simple in concept and is just as simple or even simpler to do with tinc (https://tinc-vpn.org).
Since I can use tinc in bridge mode, I can run tinc on the upstream server and on a local machine which then provides access to several physical machines without running extra software on each of those machines, which is particularly useful for machines that are resource limited, like my Macintosh LC II and LC III+:
http://elsie.zia.io/
It'd be nice if it weren't so difficult to get public addresses.
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Tinc Is Not Catan
I clicked expected some broken analogy between https://tinc-vpn.org/ and the Catan board game, but instead it is a Catan implementation. Fair enough.
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Graphviz: Open-source graph visualization software
will generate a real-time network graph using the Graphviz DOT language. It's a cool feature that I find quite useful.
[0] https://tinc-vpn.org/
superhighway84
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Would we still create Nebula today?
https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker
Honorable mention:
SuperHighway84 - more of a Usenet-inspired darknet, but I love the concept + the author's personal website:
https://github.com/mrusme/superhighway84
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Open source P2P alternative to Slack and Discord built on Tor and IPFS
While I do like the idea behind a P2P E2EE chat, I believe that unless you're willing to invest heavily into OrbitDB and IPFS, this project will stay niche at best.
The performance issues that come along with running OrbitDB/IPFS on a machine, let alone a mobile device, are still significant unfortunately. Adding Electron on top of what is already a heavy-weight application is probably going to make people's devices go brrrrr all the time. Not only that, but I would argue that for instant communication this stack might not be the best idea in terms of performance in first place.
Besides, the way IPFS has been (and still keeps) changing their dozens of libraries doesn't make development particularly smooth either. OrbitDB is always behind the latest IPFS version due to all these changes that are being introduced. Hence unless you're planning to allocate developer time on these two things as well, my guess is that you probably won't have too much fun with your back-end.
The integration with Tor is another thing that will likely be a time drain for developers, as other people here already pointed out, and that will lead to even more performance issues down the line.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea behind this project. However, I feel like the aspirations are unrealisticly high and the actual outcome might be realtively frustrating for the average end-user. Having that said, I would love my gut feeling to be proven wrong!
Disclaimer: I'm the developer of Superhighway84 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System#App..., https://github.com/mrusme/superhighway84), a USENET-inspired, uncensorable, decentralized internet discussion system running on IPFS & OrbitDB.
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Ask HN: Is it time to resurrect a Usenet clone?
Someone created a Usenet-like thing on IPFS. https://github.com/mrusme/superhighway84
It's kind of dead. IIRC the dev put that on the back burner in favor of a new BBS-like app. https://github.com/mrusme/neonmodem
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YouTube is seeming like a less and less viable platform... they should do the Patreon early-access and uncensored route
If anybody wanted to, anybody could start a RLM SuperHighway84 where we could just talk about RLM stuff all day.
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We need a community archiving effort for YouTube channels. What's most crucial to protect and how do we get organised?
SuperHighway84 - Is this handy for organization? I like the usenet-style where it sorts itself if people use proper newsgroup names. If people used a 'youtube.channelname' format at least people could maybe scroll down to channels/videos people are talking about.
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How do you/we share the stuff we hoard so those looking for stuff find it?
In my mind something like superhighway84 would be a better platform, then it's automatically organizing itself to some degree if people post in appropriate newsgroups. People looking for lost youtubers could post in youtube.channelName. That person looking for old VCDs & screeners could post in vcds.screeners.
- We have to prepare ourselves for the possibility that Reddit might try to pull a Tumblr soon
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Showing off your hoard?
SuperHighway84 is like a usenet style board where people can create whatever newsgroups they want. Anybody could start a 'Datahoarder' highway.
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10+ years of Sumo GONE
I like the idea of something like SuperHighway84 for talking about our collections. We could make one called YoutubeGraveyard or something. There's also r/DHExchange
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What do you guys think? (Using ChatGPT)
Have you heard of SuperHighway84?
What are some alternatives?
OpenVPN - OpenVPN is an open source VPN daemon
berty - Berty is a secure peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access, cellular data or trust in the network
Nebula - A scalable overlay networking tool with a focus on performance, simplicity and security
searxng - SearXNG is a free internet metasearch engine which aggregates results from various search services and databases. Users are neither tracked nor profiled.
ZeroTier - A Smart Ethernet Switch for Earth
go-orbit-db - Go version of P2P Database on IPFS
SoftEther - Cross-platform multi-protocol VPN software. Pull requests are welcome. The stable version is available at https://github.com/SoftEtherVPN/SoftEtherVPN_Stable.
hubs - Duck-themed multi-user virtual spaces in WebVR. Built with A-Frame.
tailscale - The easiest, most secure way to use WireGuard and 2FA.
Gosora - Gosora is an ultra-fast and secure forum software written in Go that balances usability with functionality.
headscale - An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
awesome-ipfs - Community list of awesome projects, apps, tools, pinning services and more related to IPFS.