status-desktop VS Nim

In the meantime, desktop already exists but it's just at the finish line w.r.t. good enough feature set and performance to launch broadly. Go check it out at https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop. This recent tweet also highlights some of the massive performance improvements the desktop team is focused on (which will also immediately be available to the mobile app): https://twitter.com/ethstatus/status/1662857323889524739

The application consists of the combined efforts of the Status organisation and community contributors, you can follow our development at github.com/status-im/ — you're welcome to contribute as well! If you're running into any bugs, we'd love it if you could file an issue in our mobile or desktop repositories.

For those looking for a no-censorship-ever-of-any-kind alternative, consider Status:

https://status.im/get/

If you don't need or want a crypto wallet or dapp browser, then simply don't use those parts of the app.

Relevant specs:

https://specs.status.im/

https://rfc.vac.dev/

Relevant repos:

https://github.com/status-im/status-react

https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop

There are trade-offs, for sure: since there's (deliberately) no integration with contacts lists (address books) of the OS or other apps, your social circle probably isn't using the app already, or in any case isn't discoverable.

The public chats facility has turned out to be too spam-prone for "well known" / advertised chats, e.g. #status. However, if you create a public chat that has some unguessable component (e.g. #myfriends-a9e72ab5) and you share it with friends (even lots) in a reasonably private context, then the chances of it being spammed are quite low. Note that public chats, while "public", are still E2EE, using the chat's name as the basis for a symmetric key.

1-to-1 and private group chats are highly secure; the latter have a max size, and depending on their size and your device, sending messages can be a little slow.

Creating a robust alternative to the existing public chats facility has involved a lot of work: the forthcoming Communities features provides a discord-like facility whereby founders/admins of communities can take advantage of various mechanisms for moderation and governing membership. The Communities feature can already be enabled in advanced preferences of both mobile and desktop apps, but note it's a WIP.

The moderation mechanisms for communities don't undermine the no-censorship principle of Status because:

(1) Any user can create a community.

(2) A community's rules are managed by those with a stake in the community, there's no override by Status-the-org nor anyone else.

(3) The underlying nodes of the network form a decentralized p2p network, i.e. there's no central actor/authority that controls the flow of messages.

Re: (3), running a Status node should be easy and incentivized.

The "incentivized" aspect is a challenging problem and not solved yet. Long story short, engineering an incentivized decentralized messaging network (not a blockchain!) is harder than incentivizing a blockchain network.

That being said, the "easy" aspect isn't too difficult to solve, sneak peek:

https://github.com/status-im/status-node

Finally, with pertinent laws and regulations in flux across the globe, there could come a day when binaries aren't readily available (from app stores, GitHub, etc.), but thankfully there's always `git clone` and `make`.

Disclosure: I'm a core contributor at Status.

My only big issue is that it does talk to googleusercontent.com. Not sure how that can fit with privacy. Heres the github issue.

Current numbers re: adoption were discussed in Status' most recent Town Hall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98wsQe6hHHs&t=365s

As for dev support: Status has teams of full-time devs working on various projects related to the mobile[1] and desktop[2] (beta) apps, as well projects that are related to the larger Ethereum ecosystem, e.g. nimbus-eth2[3]. Our teams aren't particularly large, but are working steadily to squash bugs and add/improve features. We also have teams dedicated to UX and design.

[1] https://github.com/status-im/status-react

[2] https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop

[3] https://github.com/status-im/nimbus-eth2

22. Nim - $80,000

I think the right answer to your question would be NimLang[0]. In reality, if you're seeking to use this in any enterprise context, you'd most likely want to select the subset of C++ that makes sense for you or just use C#.

[0]https://nim-lang.org/

I don't think it's a rust-inspired language, but since it has strong typing and compiles to javascript, did you give a look at nim [0] ?

For what it takes, I find the language very expressive without the verbosity in rust that reminds me java. And it is also very flexible.

[0] : https://nim-lang.org/

I see a valid cert for https://nim-lang.org/

FYI, on the front page, https://nim-lang.org, in large type you have this:

> Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula.

You better off with using a compiled language.

If you interested in a language that's compiled, fast, but as easy and pleasant as Python - I'd recommend you take a look at [Nim](https://nim-lang.org).

And to prove what Nim's capable of - here's a cool repo with 100+ cli apps someone wrote in Nim: [c-blake/bu](https://github.com/c-blake/bu)

Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.