sligh VS Vale

But, you still seem hung up on this, so here’s actual code: https://github.com/amw-zero/sligh/blob/main/lib/codegen.ml.

Of course. Here was the first incarnation: https://github.com/amw-zero/sligh. It has a decent overview of the idea in the readme. To sum it up here, the idea is: have a language built around model-driven development and model-based testing, where you write a simple model of an application, and the implementation and model-based tests are compiled for you. I wrote about the overall model-based testing strategy here. This idea comes from self-certifying compilers that produce proofs of their correctness such as Cogent, but we drop the formality requirement and use property-based testing to compare the implementation and model.

Honorable mention - I’m working on a language with similar goals: Sligh, and I’ve written about why I think it’s such a compelling idea before as well too.

In Sligh, I spent most of the last month introducing a new intermediate representation to make tier splitting (choosing if code should live on the client or server) easier. My goal was to enable derived data, as in a model that queries other models for its data and combines them by processing them in memory. I've been using the example of a personal finance application, so imagine:

The language that I work on is Sligh, and it's out of the bulleted list because it's nowhere near as mature as any of those that I listed, and I'm more of a verification enthusiast vs. expert. Almost all of the ideas in it are borrowed from somewhere else, but I think the one quasi-unique idea is it allows you to write a pure logical description / specification of an application, and it generates full-stack web application code from that.

I’m currently using Pest, though I wouldn’t exactly recommend my compiler as a ‘good example’ just yet because I’m prototyping and just churning code out.

Sligh

So tactically it’s currently a source-to-source compiler, where in the source language (my language) you denote the system state transitions, i.e. by writing create!, update!, etc, and those get compiled to corresponding client and server code in the target language (JS for now, but hoping to support WebAssembly in the future). Heres an example program. The compiler source is there too. I’m hacking it together right now, so it’s not my finest work :D

Not to be confused with Vale[0].

[0] https://vale.dev/

The article says they created a deterministic hypervisor that runs all pseudorandom behavior from a starting seed to enable perfect re-playability.

But that's all we know so far. I'm assuming there'll be some sort of fuzz testing, and static analysis or some defining actions that your software can perform.

Honestly it sounds a lot like it has a lot of crossover with what the Vale language is trying to solve: https://vale.dev/, but focused on trying to get existing software to that state instead of creating a new language to make new software already be at that state by default.

Why go through all the trouble when you can do this: https://www.hylo-lang.org/ and not spend a second thinking of lifetimes? No, copies will not be issued unless necessary.

Or why not keep exploring this idea as well? More research-oriented than the first one right now, though, so take it with a grain of salt: https://vale.dev/

Another relevant language might be Vale (https://vale.dev), which is aiming for "perfect replayability": https://verdagon.dev/blog/perfect-replayability-prototyped

Interesting. Very low level though and C(++) centric. She there any thoughts on combining the hardware and OS features with rust or https://vale.dev ?

Use a runtime memory management solution that's cheaper than garbage collection (see Vale)

This seems like a tool I'll be using, and this is an almost meaningless criticism, but why the name?

There's already the Vale programming language (https://vale.dev/), but moreover, I don't get the meaning of "vale". You could call it something like Englint which actually hints its purpose.