sidewinder VS Water.css

7 months ago I posted here about my open source starter kit Sidewinder https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder. The goal was to create a kit that would come prepared with development and deployment tools, mainly to deploy a Django app to a single private virtual server.

You can have a look at https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder where I styled the most important pages (https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder/tree/master/templates/account) for email-based login (no social login).

If you are talking about end-to-end UI tests, then using Playwright you can write your tests in Python and execute them together with other tests that you run with pytest. I have exactly this in https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/ starter kit.

You should probably really define what you need a bit better. I have a starter kit (https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/) that has some good defaults out of the box (like using django-allauth). Pair it with e.g. https://github.com/paddle-python/dj-paddle for Paddle (or something similar for Stripe) and you have a good base.

Feel free to check my Ansible playbook (`deployment`) folder of my starter kit: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

You can see it working in a Django project here: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

Check out https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/, maybe that's what you next project will need :D

My first choice if the product is a good fit would be old school Django deployed to a single VPS (no docker). I am creating a public starter kit that does exactly that, including the deployment part: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

However, there are lots of use cases that would call for additional SPA (Vue/Nuxt), or other tech. So in that case I'd add it or replace the tech stack entirely. I'd probably avoid specialized cloud services, might consider something like https://supabase.com tho if the app doesn't need a complex backend.

Thank you!

In the beginning, I used kognise'z water.css [1], so most of the smart decisions (background/text color, margins, line spacing I think) probably come from there. Since then it's been some amount of little adjustments. The font is by Jean François Porchez, called Le Monde Livre Classic [2].

I draft in Obsidian [3] and build the site with a couple python scripts and KaTeX.

[1] https://watercss.kognise.dev/

[2] https://typofonderie.com/fr/fonts/le-monde-livre-classic

[3] https://obsidian.md/

Thank you!

I must give credit to Kognise though, the style is simply their formidable water.css layout. It saved me a lot of time and anguish when I was about to get my blog started.

https://watercss.kognise.dev/

https://watercss.kognise.dev/ I would argue classless css is the way to go, you just include a single css file, then write your html without touching any css anymore, all related tags in html are inherently css-ed for you. a nice trade off for me sometimes.

Like the previous submitter ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30885700 April 2022 ) I found clasless.css while investigating semantic html-oriented css libraries and this one stood out to me as having a good balance. I'm not ideologically opposed to using classes, but using them for every bit of styling seems off and I'd rather see good default styles for regular semantically structured html. For example, classless.css uses the "card" class for cards which don't have a clear analog in among standard html tags: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element

Other libraries:

Water.css: https://watercss.kognise.dev/

MVP.css: https://andybrewer.github.io/mvp/

Missing.css: https://missing.style/

WaterCSS, very basic but good-looking UI in my opinion

Slap this on it and you're good: https://github.com/kognise/water.css/

- https://watercss.kognise.dev/ Small size (< 2kb)