setuptools VS click

To be fair, that seems to have been a 2 year warning:

https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/commit/3544de73b3662a27fa...

There was/is some discussion in setuptools about how to normalize the tarball (https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/2133#issuecomment-...) coudl something similar be applied to Building Python itself ?

❯ yay -Sy python-setuptools python-jaraco.text ❯ pip show setuptools Name: setuptools Version: 67.7.0 Summary: Easily download, build, install, upgrade, and uninstall Python packages Home-page: https://github.com/pypa/setuptools Author: Python Packaging Authority Author-email: [email protected] License: Location: /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages Requires: jaraco.text, more-itertools, ordered-set, packaging, platformdirs, tomli, validate-pyproject Required-by: Cerberus, fs, httpie, input-remapper, pecan, pycountry, python-lsp-server, reuse, setuptools-scm, zc.lockfile

Link: https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/3772

For example, when it comes to Python, one option is to use the same packaging system that a huge number of open-source libraries and tools are published with. You can use setuptools or Hatch to build a "packaged" version of your code, and publish it to either the public PyPi repository or an internal one that you set up. Then your users can use pip to install your package, automatically fetch its dependencies, and keep it up to date, just like any other Python module.

You could maybe make it a click Application, and use setuptools.

Not sure how advisable it is to depend on setup.py given the setuptools team has very clearly stated that they are not interested in supporting any cli commands anymore including setup.py install. Relavant PR

Context: "click" - "Command Line Interface Creation Kit" - easily create CLIs from Python code, via adding decorators: https://github.com/pallets/click

"click-web" in turn turns the click CLI app into a web app with one line of code.

there is also click, it is more straight forward and also nice to keep the relevant code where the code is. https://github.com/pallets/click/

I don't have huge experience with Python, but I used async code with C#/Typescript and lately I had to use some asyncio magic.

I found this article: https://blog.dalibo.com/2022/09/12/monitoring-python-subproc... and while async/await syntax is the same, it's not entirely clear for me, why there's some event loop and what exactly happens, when I pass function to asyncio.run(), like here: https://github.com/pallets/click/issues/85#issuecomment-5034...

So, you can use it and it's not that hard, but there are some parts that are vague for me, no matter which language implements async support.

Hmm… did you try such approaches, as [click](https://github.com/pallets/click) or[tap](https://github.com/swansonk14/typed-argument-parser)?

This app leverages these powerful libraries: - yt-dlp: video downloader - moviepy: video trimmer/merger - click: CLI app creator - rich / rich-click: CLI app styler

I've used click [1] a lot to build Python tooling scripts the past few years. Click usage is "sort of" similar to the author's proposed solution. There's also a small section here [2] that describes some of the issues covered in the article (in context of argparse).

[1] - https://github.com/pallets/click

I think the success of Arduino in the hardware world can be explained in a similar way, as the relative success of "command line app frameworks" like Click[1], or even much lighter-weight libraries like argparse[2]. You absolutely can get away with using just getopt[3] (and people experienced with it will likely strongly prefer it). However certain factors such as a more declarative API, a nice logo, the existence of an ecosystem (even if you're not actively drawing from it), an official "branded" forum, etc can all play into picking a more complex solution, with more baggage you don't need, certain oddities that may throw users off, etc.

[1]: https://click.palletsprojects.com/

[2]: https://docs.python.org/3/library/argparse.html

[3]: https://man.openbsd.org/getopt.3, https://linux.die.net/man/3/getopt

Exactly! You can also use a library like click (https://github.com/pallets/click) to help take care of the command line side, while you focus on the 'business logic' of your application :)