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s6
- OpenRC is a dependency-based init system for Unix-like systems
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are there any good reasons for me to avoid systemd
A (rare) good critique to systemd can be found here. Written by the developer behind s6, which happens to be scheduled to replace OpenRC on Alpine Linux. For completeness-sake, some of the main reasons why Alpine doesn't prefer systemd do not apply on most other distros.
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A discussion about the Ultimate Linux Desktop
It got mass-adopted while being imperfect, so that's to be expected. Thankfully its inception and the criticism that followed have paved the way for the likes of dinit and s6.
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Which do you use systemd or openrc? Why do you use what you use?
this page and this page, both by Laurent Bercot, creator of s6.
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init software: What's the difference?
Of the two I have experience with, runit is simpler and thus easier to get the hang of than s6-rc/s6. Though the s6 (not s6-rc) docs at the author's site contain a lot of info (including apologetics and rationales) that applies almost equally well to runit
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What do you guys think about this?
systemd: Yes; it's awaiting its "PipeWire". Thankfully, the likes of s6 and dinit are very promising. Though I can actually appreciate that systemd is addressed. As ultimately it helps in raising awareness that will benefit whatever software will replace it eventually.
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The (GNU/)Linux rabbit hole has been a negative influence on my mental state
Arguably this is less troublesome to solve compared to the other concerns. As we're inevitably waiting for the system supervision suite that will be to systemd what PipeWire has been to PulseAudio. I'm very optimistic about this as both s6 and Dinit are shaping up lovely.
- Systemd 252 Released
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Trouble with s6 services
Using the s6-service add command I added a service called "libvertd" when I ment to put "libvirtd". Now when I run s6-db-reload it spits out a error message saying "undefined service name libvertd". But I cant remove it using s6-service remove libvertd because that just spits out a generic help message and doesn't change anything. I also couldn't find documentation on https://skarnet.org/software/s6/ or https://skarnet.org/software/s6-rc/ as the command just *doesn't* exist on those pages. (also no man or info page).
- Alpine Linux is reducing dependencies on Busybox
init
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So, I am thinking of installing kiss.
Yes. The init scripts are written so as to be as init-agnostic as possible. See here to see what has specifically been tested. You'll need to either change what owns /sbin/init or, when configuring the kernel, change what executable it spawns as PID 1. Depending on what init you use, you may have to set up a service manager or gettys manually like this -- custom scripts are placed in /etc/rc.d with self-explanatory suffixes .boot, .pre.shutdown, or .post.shutdown.
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Can i use Kiss normally without eudev and only mdev
See lines 35-50 for what udev and mdev do during boot.
What are some alternatives?
dinit - Service monitoring / "init" system
systemd - The systemd System and Service Manager
InitWare - The InitWare Suite of Middleware allows you to manage services and system resources as logical entities called units. Its main component is a service management ("init") system.
tini - A tiny but valid `init` for containers
zram-init - A wrapper script for the zram linux kernel module with zsh and openrc support
jsonnet - Jsonnet - The data templating language
InitKit - Neo-InitWare is a modular, cross-platform reimplementation of the systemd init system. It is experimental.
hummingbird - Hummingbird init system for Linux based operating systems.
initscripts - 📜 Scripts to bring up network interfaces and legacy utilities in Fedora.
rconfd - Generate config files from jsonnet templates with secrets fetched from a vault server
community - Officially unofficial KISS community repository, mirror of https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/community