rust-zmq VS MSRC-Security-Research

It depends how useful you think the patch is, and maybe also how likely you think it will get merged.

In most cases I simply keep my fork as a PR and use the package either by vendoring or directly from the repo. If anyone else encounters the same bug, they will see my PR referencing the issue, they can do the same.

If many people are encountering the bug and using the package, and/or if the project seems dead, then it's a good idea to publish. You can do username prefix or you can just add "2" at the end. I've seen this for other repos, This is what https://crates.io/crates/zmq2 did while https://crates.io/crates/zmq was inactive, though it seems like the latter's maintainer became active and merged what the former's maintainer had done.

I have been using https://crates.io/crates/zmq since 2015 (shortly after rust 1.0 was announced) in production with pub-sub, request-reply and router without any issue. Processes about 5k msg/seconds (mid-freq market data).

I learned a lot about sockets with the library ZeroMQ, although at that time I was using the Python version. This library also has a Rust library, although it doesn't look like the amazing guide about sockets allows you to select Rust as of yet. Still I would recommend going through this guide, as it is not just teaching you how to use a library, but also teaches you about sockets at a theoretical level. It's entertaining to read as well.

I think maybe the ZeroMQ rust crate as a case study is something that is non-trivial: https://github.com/erickt/rust-zmq

You’ll find more primary sources across different organizations that all arrive at the 60 - 70% number. But what really grinds my gears here is that you take a piece from the article you’re criticizing and pretend that it’s a quote from Matt Miller.

It’s actually quite easy to find a primary source here because the slides from the talk that the article is based on are available: https://github.com/microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research/blob/mas...

To quote from those slides: „~70% of the vulnerabilities addressed through a security update each year continue to be memory safety issues“.

> It's still bizarre though that Rust is capturing such ridiculous mindshare.

I don't think it's that bizarre. The two big headline features that bring Rust such popularity are: #1 "70% of bugs are memory-safety bugs" [1] and Rust can help solve those, and #2 C/C++ have a couple of package manager solutions - none of which have critical mass and Rust "comes with" cargo.

Those two make me really eager to continue experimenting with Rust.

> It seems to be a temporary low-level programming zeitgeist driven by YouTube and Reddit recommendation algorithms to an audience that has never done it and probably never will.

This is some weird gatekeep-y kinda thing. Most of us didn't start out with low-level programming. Wouldn't it have been odd and frustrating for someone to tell your younger self that you have "never written C and probably never will"?

[1] https://github.com/microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research

https://github.com/microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research/blob/mas...

Windows is likely a big task for the same reasons as SMAP (https://github.com/microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research/blob/mas...). XNU should be comparable to FreeBSD, which CheriBSD is a fork of, as both use Mach's VM for memory management and have a bunch of shared code in various places, but userspace is more of an unknown quite how much effort it'd be (you'll need to port Objective-C and, now, Swift, for example). For Chromium we have ported WebKit, so I'd imagine Blink isn't too dissimilar. V8 is likely interesting, though we have a version of WebKit's JSC JIT for Morello, which gives confidence in V8 being doable.

A related post from Google Security Blog[0]:

> "A recent study[1] found that "~70% of the vulnerabilities addressed through a security update each year continue to be memory safety issues.” Another analysis on security issues in the ubiquitous `curl` command line tool showed that 53 out of 95 bugs would have been completely prevented by using a memory-safe language. [...]"

[0]: https://security.googleblog.com/2021/02/mitigating-memory-sa...

[1]: https://github.com/Microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research/blob/mas...

Here is some of the internal advocacy going on at Microsoft.

- Managed languages if you can afford a GC

- Rust

- C++ with Core Guidelines

https://github.com/microsoft/MSRC-Security-Research/tree/mas...

Note that there are still some teams like Azure Sphere and Azure RTOS, which are only providing C based SDKs, so no everyone is on the same wave length.