ripley VS integrant

Not disagreeing, and it's only one aspect of Phoenix, but it might be of interest to someone reading that this LiveView-like Clojure library exists: https://github.com/tatut/ripley

Also this is a neat list of LiveView-like technologies across various languages: https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews

Ripley seems interesting: https://github.com/tatut/ripley https://dev.solita.fi/2020/06/01/rethinking-the-frontend.html

Maybe it's because Clojure has typically attracted a demographic who are more shy about self-promoting and marketing their new ideas and tools. Photon is an exciting (and relevant) example defying that trend though: https://www.hytradboi.com/2022/uis-are-streaming-dags

Also relevant as a Phoenix-like alternative for Clojure: https://github.com/tatut/ripley

I haven't seen https://github.com/tatut/ripley mentioned. Seems cool.

Thanks for the refs! There’s also a recent CLJS attempt at this. And a good thread about trade-offs of this approach.

Have a look at Integrant from Clojure: https://github.com/weavejester/integrant

* Lifecycle management: Mount, Integrant or Component (https://github.com/tolitius/mount https://github.com/weavejester/integrant and https://github.com/stuartsierra/component)

Allesandra Sierra’s Component has lots of competitors now: first mount which has since fallen out of favor for integrant. There’s newer ones too, like clip and donut-power.

This was the missing piece for me at least. As mentioned in another reply the Imperative shell, functional core helped me a lot with that. I discovered it through Clean Architecture and by using some micro-frameworks in Clojure that really emphasised the use of the pattern.

After reviewing the options, I settled on weavejester/integrant because it's small - only one dependency and two source files in total.

Today I released a new version of Reveal Pro — dev.vlaaad/reveal-pro {:mvn/version "1.3.308"} — that adds sticker integration for system libraries such as mount, component and integrant!

Component is nice but I found the records and protocols annoying to work with. Have you checked out Integrant? That ones been my preferred component-style library.

I don't really like 'Component'. I seems very clunky and we had a lot of issues with it and a lot incidental complexity in our codebase (now converted to Java). It was the first real system that did these sort of things but if I start a project now, I much rather use Integrant or Clip.

https://github.com/weavejester/integrant

https://github.com/juxt/clip

I haven't used Clip a lot yet but my next project is defiantly going to be with Clip.