rethinkdb_rebirth VS realtime

I know [RethinkDB][1] used to do this with their SQL-like ReQL language, but I looked around a bit and can't find much else about it - and I would have thought it would be more common.

If we think about modern frontends using SQL-based backends, essentially every time we render, its ultimately the result of a tree of SQL queries (queries depend on results of other queries) running in the backend. Our frontend app state is just a tree of materialized views of our database which depend on each other. We've got a bunch of state management libraries that deal with trees but they don't fit so well with relational/graph-like data.

I came across a Postgres proposal for [Incremental View Maintenance][2] which generates a diff against an existing query with the purpose of updating a materialized view. Oracle also has [`FAST REFRESH`](https://docs.oracle.com/database/121/DWHSG/refresh.htm#DWHSG8361) for materialized views.

I guess it's relatively easy to do until you start needing joins or traversing graphs/hierarchies - which is why its maybe avoided.

[1]: https://github.com/rethinkdb/rethinkdb_rebirth

You can LISTEN/NOTIFY. Or you can use logical replication and a custom subscriber.[1] Supabase uses the latter.[2]

[1]: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/logical-replication....

[2]: https://github.com/supabase/realtime

Supabase Realtime is great for building collaborative applications. You can receive database changes over websockets, store and synchronize data about user presence, and broadcast any data to clients via "channels".

We use :telemetry to collect usage data per tenant for Supabase Realtime.

We do this for rate limiting but it also makes it very easy for us to attach a listener (https://github.com/supabase/realtime/blob/main/lib/realtime/...) which ships these (per second) aggregates to BigQuery (via Logflare), which then the billing team can aggregate further to display and actually bill people with.

Yo :D This is what Supabase Realtime does!

https://github.com/supabase/realtime

Spin up a Supabase database and then subscribe to changes with WebSockets.

You can play with it here once you have a db: https://realtime.supabase.com/inspector/new

Every project is a Postgres database, wrapped in a suite of tools like Auth, Storage, Edge Functions, Realtime and Vectors, and encompassed by API middleware and logs.

Where can I learn more about this? I've been thinking of trying to integrate Supabase Realtime (https://github.com/supabase/realtime) into my Django app (without the rest of Supabase), but I'd also like to keep things even simpler if possible.

Also, what was the reason not to go with Gevent?

I believe #2 was the main driver for the supabase team to build their real-time component: https://github.com/supabase/realtime

Background/announcement: https://supabase.com/blog/supabase-realtime-multiplayer-gene...

As a minor note, one of the linked articles talks about having used RethinkDB for its changefeeds and I made a mental note a bit back that if I ever want that supabase's realtime ( https://github.com/supabase/realtime ) provides something rather like that atop Postgres and I should try that before doing anything clever.