refterm VS reason

> If you like monospaced fonts and character grids, you can probably render that with plain SDL

You don't even need SDL https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm

refterm, a terminal emulator proof of concept.

> licensing it so that they couldn’t even look at it

https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm/blob/main/LICENSE

It’s just GPL 2.0, what are you talking about!?

Are Microsoft employees vampires that will burn up instantly if they merely glance at GPL code or something?

This is sour grapes nonsense from Microsoft. “We don’t like your tone so we won’t even dignify your argument by considering it.”

At one point an MS employee said they would love to fix their code as suggested by Casey but he refused to even look at the YouTube video!

“I would love to hear your arguments but I refuse to listen to the sound of your voice.” is next-level dismissive.

You might also find https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm interesting.

Casey Muratori made a renderer/terminal a short while back. Might be a good reference of you intend to go that route. https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm

You keep complaining that it's not a fully working terminal. Casey, on the other hand, writes here: [1]

> These features are not designed to be comprehensive, since this is only meant to be a reference renderer, not a complete terminal.

[1] https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm#feature-support

After that post they did implement a full reference implementation:

https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm/commits/main

And there is movement in getting changes into the terminal itself:

https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10461

OCaml and Haskell already have that nice type system (and even more nice). If OCaml's syntax bothers you, there is Reason [1] which is a different frontend to the same compiler suite.

Also in this space is Gleam [2] which targets Erlang / OTP, if high concurrency and fault tolerance is your cup of tea.

[1]: https://reasonml.github.io/

[2]: https://gleam.run/

When I see this it makes me want to run for ReasonML/ReScript/Elm/PureScript.

Sum types (without payloads on the instances they are effectively enums) should not require a evening filling ceremonial dance event to define.

https://reasonml.github.io/

https://rescript-lang.org/

https://elm-lang.org/

https://www.purescript.org/

(any I forgot?)

It's nice that TS is a strict super set of JS... But that's about the only reason TS is nice. Apart from that the "being a strict super set" hampers TS is a million and one ways.

To my JS is too broken to fix with a strict super set.

> The syntax is also not very friendly IMO.

Very true. There's an alternate syntax for OCaml called "ReasonML" that looks much more, uh, reasonable: https://reasonml.github.io/

I wish they would update their blog![0] The last post is from Aug. 2018, which definitely gives the impression that the project is dead.

But it's not dead, if you look at their GitHub.[1]

[0] https://reasonml.github.io/blog/

[1] https://github.com/reasonml/reason

OCaml makes so much sense to me -- it's just a shame that the syntax has some weird decisions.

I wish ReasonML (https://reasonml.github.io/) would come back -- it's a new syntax for the same language, kind of an Elixir/Erlang thing.

Ocaml is still a wonderful language if you want to look into it, and Reason is still going strong as an alternate syntax for OCaml. With either OCaml or Reason you can compile to native code, or use the continuation of BuckleScript now called Melange.

Hey HN, at Ahrefs we have been working on an online book that hopefully helps React developers get up and running with Melange, an OCaml to JavaScript compiler. You can read more about Melange here: https://melange.re/.

There are still a few chapters that we'd like to add before considering it "complete", but it might be already helpful for some folks out there, that's why we decided to publish it early.

The book uses Reason syntax to implement React components using ReasonReact components. You can read more about both in:

https://reasonml.github.io/

ReScript is "Fast, Simple, Fully Typed JavaScript from the Future". What that means is that ReScript has a lightning fast compiler, an easy to learn JS like syntax, strong static types, with amazing features like pattern matching and variant types. Until 2020 it was called "BuckleScript" and is closely related to ReasonML.