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pure-data
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pure-data VS midica - a user suggested alternative
2 projects | 12 Aug 2023
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How to get in touch with maintainers in PD - Running PD on phone
Report bugs on the pd github https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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A brief interview with Tcl creator John Ousterhout
You might be interested in clicking through the puredata source code.
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
> The other advantage is because these things were implemented in the 80s
Pd was developed in the mid 90s
> they are very computationally efficient
Not as efficient as it could be, though. For example, instead of proper SIMD instructions, the DSP perform routines only use manual loop unrolling, praying that the compiler will auto-vectorize it.
Finally, everything is single-threaded, leaving lots of performance on the table. FWIW, I have a PR for an asynchronous task API (https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1357) and also a branch for multi-threaded DSP (https://github.com/Spacechild1/pure-data/tree/multi-threadin...).
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Pure Data: an open source visual language for multimedia
> Any criticism or unwelcome suggestions are treated as an insult to Miller Puckette and the proponent is attacked, ignored, or advised to implement it themselves (ie to go away and not come back).
I don't think this holds for the general case, but there a certainly a few users caught up in Stockholm Syndrome :-) I can assure you that the developer team (which I am a part of) is very well aware of Pd's limitations and problems. Pd has seen quite significant UX improvements over the last few years, but the pace of development is very slow. Anyway, if you have specific criticism, suggestions or feature requests, feel free to open a ticket on GitHub: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.
As a side note, the minimalistic GUI itself won't change since it is an intentional design decision by Miller, but there is some effort to abstract the core/GUI communication to allow alternative GUI implementations. (Personally, I really dislike the current Tcl/Tk GUI - not because it's minimalistic, but because it's slow and buggy.)
> and idiosyncratic terminology (eg PD refers to module connectors as 'patch cords' just like on an analog modular synthesizer or mixer, but what synth people commonly call a pulse or a trigger is a 'bang' in PD).
Pd's 'bang' belongs to the control/event domain, you can't really compare it to trigger/pulse in modular synthesizers. (FWIW, there are several Pd externals that implement audio-rate triggers.)
> You can make it do anything, but unless you already have a very specific goals you will spend most of the time reinventing wheels in parameter space.
That's a fair point. It's important for people to understand that Pd vanilla is really a programming environment with only a minimal set of built-in objects that allow you to build higher-level abstractions. You definitely need a set of "abstractions" or libraries to be productive. Fortunately, there are many existing Pd libraries and they can be easily installed with Pd's package manager "Deken". The most extensive one is "ELSE" with nearly 500 objects, containing everything from band-limited ocillators, filters, sequencers, GUIs, etc. Personally, I have my own collection of abstractions that I made over the last years.
That being said, I would agree that you should always pick the right tool for the job. Just as you wouldn't write your website in C, you wouldn't pick Pd for typical EDM stuff (unless you have a very good reason). But for prototyping and experimental electronics it's a fantastic tool, I think.
- Implementing Cosine in C from Scratch
- [P] Pure Data patch learning and automation
scheme-for-pd
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Best livecoding software if I primarily want to manipulate the MIDI in my DAW
I have also made a pure data version is you need it to be free to run, though that is less full featured. https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd
- Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
- Scheme for Max (and Live) 0.4 beta release up.
- Scheme-y music software
- The Haskell School of Music (book) [pdf]
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Scheme for Pd 0.1 available as binary packages for OSX and Windows
Scheme for Pd is a Pd port of (most of) Scheme for Max. It enables you to script and live code Pd with s7 Scheme, including working with the scheduler, hot reloading code, and dynamically running Scheme code in Pd built from messages. I'm pretty sure I've done the right thing for win32 and win64, one should be able to download the zip file, expand in your externals directory, add this directory to your Pd file paths, and be good to go. It would be lovely if a windows user can try this out and let me know either way. Project page: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd Release: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd/releases/tag/0.1-beta
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Linux/open source - what to connect orca to?
No, but Pure Data is. I have ported Scheme for Max to PureData as more minimal version, but it's newer and does require building from source. I'll be doing more work on the Pd version over the next few months though, and I'd say 80-90% fo the examples and docs for Scheme for Max work identically (or with very little alteration) on Pd. The Pd project is here: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd
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Extension languages?
I just heard about https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd (it seems to be a place holder & a port of the Scheme for Max project)
What are some alternatives?
supercollider - An audio server, programming language, and IDE for sound synthesis and algorithmic composition.
plugdata - Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
Orca - Esoteric Programming Language
PureeData - PuréeData is a browser-based GUI interface for a remote PureData server, allowing real-time collaborative patching for anyone, anywhere.
pd-lua - Lua bindings for Pd, updated for Lua 5.3+
musl - unofficial musl mirror git://git.musl-libc.org/musl
scheme-for-max - Max/MSP external for scripting and live coding Max with s7 Scheme Lisp
wefx - Basic WASM graphics package to draw to an HTML Canvas using C. In the style of the gfx library
cl-patterns - Library for writing patterns to generate or process (a)musical sequences of mathematically (un)related (non-)compound values in Lisp.
v7unix - Version 7 Unix for a POSIX world
alda-clj - A Clojure library for live-coding music with Alda