rum VS Typesense

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rum

RUM access method - inverted index with additional information in posting lists (by postgrespro)

Typesense

Open Source alternative to Algolia + Pinecone and an Easier-to-Use alternative to ElasticSearch ⚡ 🔍 ✨ Fast, typo tolerant, in-memory fuzzy Search Engine for building delightful search experiences (by typesense)
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rum

Posts with mentions or reviews of rum. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-10.
  • Code Search Is Hard
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Apr 2024
    the rum index has worked well for us on roughly 1TB of pdfs. written by postgrespro, same folks who wrote core text search and json indexing. not sure why rum not in core. we have no problems.

       https://github.com/postgrespro/rum
  • Is it worth using Postgres' builtin full-text search or should I go straight to Elastic?
    2 projects | /r/PostgreSQL | 25 Apr 2023
    If you need ranking, and you have the possibility to install PostgreSQL extensions, then you can consider an extension providing RUM indexes: https://github.com/postgrespro/rum. Otherwise, you'll have to use an "external" FTS engine like ElasticSearch.
  • Features I'd Like in PostgreSQL
    14 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jan 2023
    >Reduce the memory usage of prepared queries

    Yes query plan reuse like every other db, this still blows me away PG replans every time unless you explicitly prepare and that's still per connection.

    Better full-text scoring is one for me that's missing in that list, TF/IDF or BM25 please see: https://github.com/postgrespro/rum

  • Ask HN: Books about full text search
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Nov 2022
    for postgres, i highly recommend the rum index over the core fts. rum is written by postgrespro, who also wrote core fts and json indexing in pg.

        https://github.com/postgrespro/rum
  • Postgres Full Text Search vs. the Rest
    21 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Oct 2022
    My experience with Postgres FTS (did a comparison with Elastic a couple years back), is that filtering works fine and is speedy enough, but ranking crumbles when the resulting set is large.

    If you have a large-ish data set with lots of similar data (4M addresses and location names was the test case), Postgres FTS just doesn't perform.

    There is no index that helps scoring results. You would have to install an extension like RUM index (https://github.com/postgrespro/rum) to improve this, which may or may not be an option (often not if you use managed databases).

    If you want a best of both worlds, one could investigate this extensions (again, often not an option for managed databases): https://github.com/matthewfranglen/postgres-elasticsearch-fd...

    Either way, writing something that indexes your postgres database into elastic/opensearch is a one time investment that usually pays off in the long run.

  • Postgres Full-Text Search: A Search Engine in a Database
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Jul 2022
    Mandatory mention of the RUM extension (https://github.com/postgrespro/rum) if this caught your eye. Lots of tutorials and conference presentations out there showcasing the advantages in terms of ranking, timestamps...
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Jul 2021
    You might be just fine adding an unindexed tsvector column, since you've already filtered down the results.

    The GIN indexes for FTS don't really work in conjunction with other indices, which is why https://github.com/postgrespro/rum exists. Luckily, it sounds like you can use your existing indices to filter and let postgres scan for matches on the tsvector.

  • Postgrespro/rum: RUM access method – inverted index with additional information
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Dec 2021
  • Debugging random slow writes in PostgreSQL
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 15 May 2021
    We have been bitten by the same behavior. I gave a talk with a friend about this exact topic (diagnosing GIN pending list updates) at PGCon 2019 in Ottawa[1][2].

    What you need to know is that the pending list will be merged with the main b-tree during several operations. Only one of them is so extremely critical for your insert performance - that is during actual insert. Both vacuum and autovacuum (including autovacuum analyze but not direct analyze) will merge the pending list. So frequent autovacuums are the first thing you should tune. Merging on insert happens when you exceed the gin_pending_list_limit. In all cases it is also interesting to know which memory parameter is used to rebuild the index as that inpacts how long it will take: work_mem (when triggered on insert), autovacuum_work_mem (when triggered during autovauum) and maintainance_work_mem (triggered by a call to gin_clean_pending_list()) define how much memory can be used for the rebuild.

    What you can do is:

    - tune the size of the pending list (like you did)

    - make sure vacuum runs frequently

    - if you have a bulk insert heavy workload (ie. nightly imports), drop the index and create it after inserting rows (not always makes sense business wise, depends on your app)

    - disable fastupdate, you pay a higher cost per insert but remove the fluctuctuation when the merge needs to happen

    The first thing was done in the article. However I believe the author still relies on the list being merged on insert. If vacuums were tuned agressively along with the limit (vacuums can be tuned per table). Then the list would be merged out of bound of ongoing inserts.

    I also had the pleasure of speaking with one main authors of GIN indexes (Oleg Bartunov) during the mentioned PGCon. He gave probably the best solution and informed me to "just use RUM indexes". RUM[3] indexes are like GIN indexes, without the pending list and with faster ranking, faster phrase searches and faster timestamp based ordering. It is however out of the main postgresql release so it might be hard to get it running if you don't control the extensions that are loaded to your Postgres instance.

    [1] - wideo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brt41xnMZqo&t=1s

    [2] - slides https://www.pgcon.org/2019/schedule/attachments/541_Let's%20...

    [3] - https://github.com/postgrespro/rum

  • Show HN: Full text search Project Gutenberg (60m paragraphs)
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Jan 2021
    I suggest to have a look at https://github.com/postgrespro/rum if you haven’t yet. It solves the issue of slow ranking in PostgreSQL FTS.

Typesense

Posts with mentions or reviews of Typesense. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-05-03.
  • FlowDiver: The Road to SSR - Part 1
    3 projects | dev.to | 3 May 2024
    Disregarding props-drilling technique in favor of a more reliable and elegant solution we looked for inspiration elsewhere. Another project of ours .find was using Typesense/Algolia components, which looked a bit like black-box/magic, but at the same time provided a clean approach to build complex and highly customizable solutions.
  • Release Radar · April 2024 Edition: Major updates from the open source community
    12 projects | dev.to | 3 May 2024
    Have you ever tried to look up something, only to realise your search engine doesn't recognise your typos? Typesense to the rescue! It's a fast, typo-tolerant search engine built for an easier browsing experience. The latest version comes with new features such as built-in conversational search, image search, voice search, analytics, and more. Dive into the release notes for the full list of changes and enhancements.
  • Website Search Hurts My Feelings
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Dec 2023
    There are actually plenty of non-ES products that are way easier to integrate and tune (and get better results with less effort).

    - Typesense (https://github.com/typesense/typesense)

    - Algolia

    - Google Programmable Search Engine (https://programmablesearchengine.google.com/about/)

  • Remote Machine Learning and Searching on a Raspberry Pi 5
    2 projects | /r/immich | 11 Dec 2023
  • Open Source alternatives to tools you Pay for
    21 projects | dev.to | 8 Dec 2023
    Typesense - Open Source Alternative to Algolia
  • DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Oct 2023
    If you like your penny take a look at Typesense https://typesense.org/ - nothing to complain here. Especially nothing complain about pricing.
  • Vector databases: analyzing the trade-offs
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Aug 2023
    I work on Typesense [1] (historically considered an open source alternative to Algolia).

    We then launched vector search in Jan 2023, and just last week we launched the ability to generate embeddings from within Typesense.

    You'd just need to send JSON data, and Typesense can generate embeddings for your data using OpenAI, PaLM API, or built-in models like S-BERT, E-5, etc (running on a GPU if you prefer) [2]

    You can then do a hybrid (keyword + semantic) search by just sending the search keywords to Typesense, and Typesense will automatically generate embeddings for you internally and return a ranked list of keyword results weaved with semantic results (using Rank Fusion).

    You can also combine filtering, faceting, typo tolerance, etc - the things Typesense already had.

    [1] https://github.com/typesense/typesense

    [2] https://typesense.org/docs/0.25.0/api/vector-search.html

  • Creating an advanced search engine with PostgreSQL
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Jul 2023
    For something small with a minimal footprint, I'd recommend Typesense. https://github.com/typesense/typesense
  • Obsidian Publish full text search
    1 project | /r/ObsidianMD | 28 Jun 2023
    I haven’t used Publish, but I’d assume you could use something like https://typesense.org/ to index and search the vault.
  • DynamoDB search options
    1 project | /r/aws | 18 May 2023
    A cheaper option would be to use https://typesense.org. You can use DynamoDb streams to automatically load records. It has worked well for me.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing rum and Typesense you can also consider the following projects:

postgres-elasticsearch-fdw - Postgres to Elastic Search Foreign Data Wrapper

MeiliSearch - A lightning-fast search API that fits effortlessly into your apps, websites, and workflow

recoll - recoll with webui in a docker container

Elasticsearch - Free and Open, Distributed, RESTful Search Engine

zombodb - Making Postgres and Elasticsearch work together like it's 2023

Apache Solr - Apache Lucene and Solr open-source search software

pgvector - Open-source vector similarity search for Postgres

meilisearch-laravel-scout - MeiliSearch integration for Laravel Scout

pg_search - pg_search builds ActiveRecord named scopes that take advantage of PostgreSQL’s full text search

loki - Like Prometheus, but for logs.

pg_cjk_parser - Postgres CJK Parser pg_cjk_parser is a fts (full text search) parser derived from the default parser in PostgreSQL 11. When a postgres database uses utf-8 encoding, this parser supports all the features of the default parser while splitting CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) characters into 2-gram tokens. If the database's encoding is not utf-8, the parser behaves just like the default parser.

sonic - 🦔 Fast, lightweight & schema-less search backend. An alternative to Elasticsearch that runs on a few MBs of RAM.