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ponyc
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The problem with general purpose programming languages
For example, the actor's model is not used by a lot of languages, Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/) and Elixir are the only ones that I know, but they address the concurrency problem quite well, while it's a pain to deal with in other languages at large scale.
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Found a language in development called Vale which claims to be the safest AOT compiled language in the World (Claims to beSafer than Rust)
And that last point is critical. If the language flatly can't represent some concepts it uses, they have to be implemented somewhere else. I had a similar discussion with a proponent for Pony once- the language itself is 100% safe, and fully dependent on C for its runtime and data structures. One of Rust's core strengths is being able to express unsafe concepts, meaning the unsafe code can expose a safe interface that accurately describes its requirements rather than an opaque C ABI. Vale doesn't seem to do that.
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The Rust I wanted had no future
"Exterior iteration. Iteration used to be by stack / non-escaping coroutines, which we also called "interior" iteration, as opposed to "exterior" iteration by pointer-like things that live in variables you advance. Such coroutines are now finally supported by LLVM (they weren't at the time) and are actually a fairly old and reliable mechanism for a linking-friendly, not-having-to-inline-tons-of-library-code abstraction for iteration. They're in, like, BLISS and Modula-2 and such. Really normal thing to have, early Rust had them, and they got ripped out for a bunch of reasons that, again, mostly just form "an argument I lost" rather than anything I disagree with today. I wish Rust still had them. Maybe someday it will!"
I remember that one. The change was shortly after I started fooling with Rust and was major. Major as in it broke all the code that I'd written to that point.
"Async/await. I wanted a standard green-thread runtime with growable stacks -- essentially just "coroutines that escape, when you need them too"."
I remember that one, too; it was one of the things that drew me to the language---I was imagining something more like Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/).
"The Rust I Wanted probably had no future, or at least not one anywhere near as good as The Rust We Got."
Almost certainly true. But The Rust We Got is A Better C++, which was never appealing to me because I never liked C++ anyway.
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How long until Rust becomes mandatory, and use of any other language opens the developer up to Reckless Endangerment charges
Pony or bust.
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Universal parameter passing semantics
If you have a value in mutable storage, and want to treat it as an immutable parameter without copying it first, you will need to provide some way to guarantee that it won't be mutated while being treated as immutable! There doesn't seem to be a definitive best way to do that (although the likes of Pony make a try at it).
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Virtual Threads Arrive in JDK 21, Ushering a New Era of Concurrency
The love child of Erlang and Rust exists already: Pony.
https://www.ponylang.io
It really is the best of both languages... unfortunately, the main supporter of Pony seems to have stopped using it in favour of Rust though :D.
But if that's really what you want, Pony is your language. It definitely deserves more love.
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Why Turborepo is migrating from Go to Rust – Vercel
You can actually try to have a magic language which "does not ignore decades of PL research" but you are likely to get either something broken or a project that is likely not going to release in our lifetime.
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Show HN: Ractor – a Rust-based actor framework with clusters and supervisors
Never a bad time to plug Pony lang[1] - a safety-oriented actor-model language. In addition to the numerous safety guarantees, you also get a beautiful syntax and automatic memory management. Really a great language that often gets overshadowed by Rust's hype-turfing.
[1]: https://www.ponylang.io/
Moleculer
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Make microservices look like monoliths
My goto for this kind of task is moleculer: https://moleculer.services/
Fast, battle tested, vue2-like approach, great documentation, good community. The automatic indipendent-scalability as an option is usually the main selling point of these solutions, but honestly I think the real pro is the "composition" approach, which is essential if you want to keep a clean and well-organized codebase. On this regard, I found moleculer pretty great even for large teams.
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How to Import/Reference a Microservice from another one
If you’re using k8s, check out https://moleculer.services and this would likely solve what you’re looking for.
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Node JS Microservice Frameworks for Developing Scalable Web Apps.
Molecular – Progressive Microservices Framework for Node.js
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First time building microservice-based application
While you’re delving into microservices, check out Moleculer https://moleculer.services
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if Nodejs does not meant for CPU intensive tasks so I think it's better to avoid it from the beginning
I almost can’t believe I haven’t seen it mentioned here before, but adding Moleculer into your node project (if it’s clustered/k8s’d) will literally solve many single threaded problems, not to mention tons of other scalability issues. https://moleculer.services/
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How to deal with singletons in a distributed system?
You could use a framework for this. Have a look at moleculer
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Where can I learn to implement microservices?
I haven't used this, but it seems neat: https://moleculer.services/
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Microservices using express js
Look into Moleculer.
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Been playing with moleculerjs recently, and just finished my first package: a service that allows you to use any node API framework as a moleculer gateway.
Moleculer already provides an in-house http gateway, but what if you want to use an existing API, and how to maintain decoupled code when creating your gateway? This package solves both. You can create your API, passing in any services you require as dependencies. You can then bind your API to moleculer using the moleculer-universal-gateway.
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Don’t start with microservices – monoliths are your friend
But there's more to the topic of microservices. Seems like all the conversation focuses on deployment pain. You can build a service with something like Akka or Moleculer where the modules act independently and have some message passing and resilience from each other, but they can still all live in one codebase, one process, and deployed as one unit. It works fine and isn't painful at all. And maybe down the line you decide to split the thing up into multiple processes and multiple deployment units, and that's an easy refactor because the modules are already somewhat separated.
What are some alternatives?
gleam - ⭐️ A friendly language for building type-safe, scalable systems!
Nest - A progressive Node.js framework for building efficient, scalable, and enterprise-grade server-side applications with TypeScript/JavaScript 🚀
Halide - a language for fast, portable data-parallel computation
Express - Fast, unopinionated, minimalist web framework for node.
prolog-to-minizinc - A Prolog-to-MiniZinc translator
AWS Lambda Router for NodeJS - AWS Lambda router for NodeJS
Phoenix - wxPython's Project Phoenix. A new implementation of wxPython, better, stronger, faster than he was before.
seneca - A microservices toolkit for Node.js.
tab-rs - The intuitive, config-driven terminal multiplexer designed for software & systems engineers
AdonisJs Framework - AdonisJS is a TypeScript-first web framework for building web apps and API servers. It comes with support for testing, modern tooling, an ecosystem of official packages, and more.
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).
fastify - Fast and low overhead web framework, for Node.js