pedestal VS django-ninja

I do! Clojure and Pedestal https://github.com/pedestal/pedestal work great for quick MVPs. Clojurescript with a nice HMR environment like Figwheel https://figwheel.org/ is also great if you need a front end.

For authentication and authorization: Have you had a look at Buddy? There's also some pedestal docs about how to use it: https://github.com/pedestal/pedestal/tree/master/samples/buddy-auth

I feel like I'm repeating myself in my recent comments: Pedestal.

Django Ninja [1], it forever changed how I write Django project, in a way so elegant and productive.

[1]: https://django-ninja.dev/

Django Ninja is a RESTful wrapper for Django, while UtilMeta Python Framework uses a more concise declarative ORM Schema for Django and other future-supporting ORMs like sqlachemy and Peewee to build RESTful APIs more efficiently, and supports not only Django but all Python mainstream frameworks like Django, Flask, Starlette, FastAPI, Sanic, Tornado, etc.

I can't recommend [django-ninja](https://github.com/vitalik/django-ninja) enough. It's an easy to use, extremely fast, typed API for django. I've found it to be better in almost all aspects when compared to djangorestframework.

It's gaining popularity but is still widely unknown.

> The only place I really see Django at large companies is as an api using DRF or something.

This is not a bad thing. Using Django as an API backend is amazingly fast in terms of development time, especially with modern frameworks such as django-ninja [1].

Just use the built-in ORM to create models, write your endpoints, and use the built-in admin interface to play with the database if you don't have endpoints for everything.

There is also a less known feature of Django called admindocs [2], which automatically generates a human readable, hyperlinked documentation for your models and relations between them.

[1] https://django-ninja.rest-framework.com/

[2] https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.2/ref/contrib/admin/admi...

Personally, I also prefer django-ninja to DRF.

Actually that's not fully true. If you mix async and sync codes in django-ninja there will be some errors. Where's the proof ? django-ninja doesn't support async auth

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Also recommend Django-Ninja. It basically reimplements fastapi's type and decorator-based API construction, but embedded directly in django so you have access to django's ORM and middleware library.