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paip-lisp
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Ask HN: Guide for Implementing Common Lisp
PAIP by Peter Norvig, Chapter 23, Compiling Lisp
https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter23...
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The Meeting of the Minds That Launched AI
Emacs is so much more than a text editor! But I need to stay on topic...
I believe your assessment of LISP (and therefore of MacArthy)'s impact on AI to be unfair. Just a few days ago https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp was discussed on this site, for example.
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Towards a New SymPy
Sounds like a great project idea to make a toy demo of this direction you'd like to see. Maybe comparable to https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter15... and https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter8.... which are a few hundred lines of Lisp each, but do enough to be interesting.
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A few newbie questions about lisp
You could look into Paradigms of AI Programming by Peter Norvig which might interest you regardless of Lisp content.
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Mathematical paradigm?
Lisp has great power, examine PAIP, part II chapters 7 and 8.
- Peter Norvig – Paradigms of AI Programming Case Studies in Common Lisp
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Evidence that GPT-4 has a level of understanding
A computer running Prolog reasons, and that only requires a couple of pages of code. So it seems feasible that the network could have learned some ability to reason within its network.
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Conversation with Larry Masinter about Standardizing Common Lisp
IMHO it's because lisp shines to manipulate symbols whereas the current AI trend is crunching matrices.
When AI was about building grammars, trees, developing expert systems builds rules etc. symbol manipulation was king. Look at PAIP for some examples: https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp
This paradigm has changed.
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A lispy book on databases
Origen: Conversación con Bing, 4/4/2023(1) gigamonkey/monkeylib-binary-data - GitHub. https://github.com/gigamonkey/monkeylib-binary-data Con acceso 4/4/2023. (2) paip-lisp/chapter4.md at main · norvig/paip-lisp · GitHub. https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter4.md Con acceso 4/4/2023. (3) bibliography.md · GitHub. https://gist.github.com/gigamonkey/6151820 Con acceso 4/4/2023.
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A Retrospective on Paradigms of AI Programming (2002)
If anyone is interested PAIP is downloadable at https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp
Fennel
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Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.
I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.
Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.
https://fennel-lang.org
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LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
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The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
> I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.
Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?
* https://fennel-lang.org/
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The Future of the Vim Project
I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.
[0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
- Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
- Can I use elixir as the scripting language of my game engine?
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TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
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Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
- 916 Days of Emacs
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What's your opinion on Lua programming language?
There's fennel if you're a fan of LISP syntax. I like embedding lua because it's light and easy and doesn't re-engineer itself every six months like python; but I agree, the lua syntax certainly is fugly.
What are some alternatives?
mal - mal - Make a Lisp
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
30-days-of-elixir - A walk through the Elixir language in 30 exercises.
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua
Crafting Interpreters - Repository for the book "Crafting Interpreters"
nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP
coalton - Coalton is an efficient, statically typed functional programming language that supercharges Common Lisp.
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
picolisp-by-example - The source code of the free book "PicoLisp by Example"
lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua
slime - The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs
webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua