pack VS shuttle

I've recently found this quote by Kelsey Hightower:

"I'm convinced the majority of people managing infrastructure just want a PaaS. The only requirement: it has to be built by them."

Source: https://twitter.com/kelseyhightower/status/85193508753294540...

In the last few weeks, I've experimented a bit with Flux (https://fluxcd.io/), Tekton (https://tekton.dev/) and Cloud Native Buildpacks (https://buildpacks.io/) on how to provide K8s powered git push deployments without using a dedicated CI/CD server.

My project is still in early alpha stage and just a proof of concept :-) My vision is to expand it into an Open Source PaaS in the future.

Do you think the above quote is true? What does an open source PaaS need to be like in order to be accepted by software developers?

Some other projects have been discontinued in the past (like Flynn or Deis) or were created before the Kubernetes era.

Is it the right direction to provide a Heroku like solution based on K8s or is it better to provide an Open Source Infrastructure as Code library with building blocks to avoid everything from scratch?

```bash (curl -sSL "https://github.com/buildpacks/pack/releases/download/v0.28.0/pack-v0.28.0-linux-arm64.tgz" | sudo tar -C /usr/local/bin/ --no-same-owner -xzv pack)

Although Dockerfiles have the benefit of migrating existing workloads to containers without having to update your toolchain, I definitely prefer the container-first workflow. Cloud Native [Buildpacks](https://buildpacks.io/) are a CNCF incubating project but were proven at Heroku. Buildpacks support common languages, but working on a Go project I've also had a great experience with [ko](https://ko.build/). Free yourself from Dockerfile!

Cloud Native Buildpacks

It's big and overwhelming and sometimes scary. But you know what? It's also fun, engaging, and very refreshing. Because I'm a DevRel, I don't have many chances to focus on something particular. Still, I'm having a lot of fun exploring different CMSs (like Statamic, Craft, or Sanity), new approaches (at last, I understood why the headless approach is so important), and diving into tech I never used before (hello Buildpacks).

Moreover, I especially like where Rust is right now in the web space. It really feels like there’s a lot of smart people working on the next generation of web development tools - it feels like the place to be. There are a range of great open-source web dev tools that are just reaching critical levels of maturity. Axum, which I used to build Prodzilla, feels ready for out of the box web dev, and is crazy-performant, as I write about later. More recently available is Loco, a Rails-like framework for building web applications in Rust that's picking up steam. And in dev-tooling and hosting there’s Shuttle, a 1-line hosting solution for Rust backends.

cargo-shuttle is Shuttle's own CLI for interacting with the Shuttle platform. Within the src folder, you will be able to get a better sense of how you can organise your folders/files for a larger CLI project for a live service. There is also use of async here with tokio, so if you're interested in learning how to get started with using clap with async services (for example setting up an async client for a database service), this would be a perfect opportunity to learn to do so!

https://github.com/shuttle-hq/shuttle/tree/main/services/shuttle-axum https://docs.rs/shuttle-axum/0.34.1/src/shuttle_axum/lib.rs.html#1-78

It would be great if there are some kind of code snippet on the README that really demonstrate the "ship backends without writing infra" feature that I think is one of the unique feature of shuttle. I remember seeing one on the official website (https://shuttle.rs) that left me impressed.

Shuttle is currently accepting entries for a competition, with the best projects being featured at our booth at the [EuroRust](eurorust.eu/) conference this year.

Reading here https://shuttle.rs may be nice to try for the future.

At Shuttle, we've teamed up again with Stefan Baumgartner, the organizer of Rust Linz and author of 'Typescript in 50 lessons', to host a free workshop titled "Rust for Javascript Developers: Building apps that utilize LLMs".

The community being built at https://shuttle.rs is extremely open and welcoming. I’ve yet to do anything on the main code base, but I’ve helped with the docs.

At Shuttle we’ve teamed up with Stefan Baumgartner, the organizer of Rust Linz, to create a newsletter series that takes a slightly different approach towards learning Rust.