overtone VS scheme-for-max

Are you talking synthesizers? If yes, then Overtone is a great project for that, if you are OK with using clojure.

I've never actually used it myself. I've preferred systems that talk to SuperCollider, like overtone, because it's already rock solid and has lots of good DSP built in.

Thanks. I don't know to what extend its "better-because-of-clojure" but I also found overtone https://github.com/overtone/overtone which should be good fun (though the underlying synthesizer is supercollider/C++).

You might want to look at Overtone, which is a clojure environment built on top of overtone, and which integrates with processing and a few other similar things.

https://overtone.github.io/

> I'm fluent in Python but find the use of colons is the real sticking point.

The you'd probably have hated its predecessor which was all about the parentheses: https://overtone.github.io/

It's too bad that superficial stuff like which characters you need to type is holding you back. Getting used to Ruby when you're familiar with Python is no big deal. I would just stick with it

There's a project you may find interesting: https://overtone.github.io/. Besides sound/synthesis stuff, it has https://github.com/overtone/midi-clj library, which allows you to write MIDI as lisp (Clojure, to be precise) code. Emacs has great support for Clojure programming (via Cider), and REPL-based development is perfect for writing music.

overtone, in clojure and using the SuperCollider engine

It's overtone.live that has a problem with windows, as documented here . It's used in the overtone playground project and that's probably the reason why I couldn't get it to work.

To download Scheme for Max and for tutorials, documentation, and the cookbook, visit the GitHub page: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

If you like things like Janet, you might also like s7 Scheme. It is also a minimal Scheme built entirely in C and dead easy to embed. I used it to make Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pd, extensions to the Max and Pd computer music platform to allow scripting them in Scheme. (https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max) Janet was one of the options I looked pretty closely at before choosing s7.

The author (Bill Schottstaedt, Stanford CCRMA) is not too interested in making pretty web pages, ha, but the language is great!

Project page: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

I created Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pure Data. They are extensions to the Max/MSP, Ableton Live, and Pure Data computer music environments that embed an s7 Scheme interpreter in the host so that you can script, automate, and live code the hosts with s7, a Scheme from the CCRMA computer music center at Stanford and the same one used in the Snd editor and the Common Music 3 algorithmic composition environment. This allows you to do things like write algorithmic music tools, sequencers, and use the Ableton Live API in Scheme, including with Common Lisp style macros. It has an API for integrating with Max to share data structures, hook into the scheduler, run in the high priority thread, and so on. S4M allows you to do all the goodness of high level music programming in a Lisp, without losing the ability to use modern commercial tooling and instruments. It's my thesis project for a Masters in Music Technology with Andy Schloss and George Tzanetakis at the University of Victoria, and I plan to continue to a PhD working on it. I tried submitting twice, but it never made the page, which surprised me a bit given Lisp interest here.

The github page is here: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

The youtube channel with various demos is here: https://www.youtube.com/c/musicwithlisp

On a closely related note, and possibly of interest, I am the author of Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pd, which put the Common Music 3 Scheme interpreter in Max and Pure Data. Common Music's most recent version used s7 Scheme as the language, which is mostly a a Scheme but borrows many features from Common Lisp (keywords, defmacro, etc). With Scheme for Max, you can basically run almost all Common Music code inside Max, Ableton Live, and Pd, allowing you to use it with more commercial tools (such as VST instruments, etc). It has extensive API functions for hooking into the host scheduler and data structures as well as running Lisp/Scheme code.

Project is here: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

There are many very "serious" ones, but they won't replace DAWs because the audience for a programming language tool for computer music looks is very different.

A few off the top of my head that are used and/or made by serious computer music people: Common Music, Nyquist, Euterpea, Open Music, Common Lisp Music, Snd, Csound, SuperCollider, Chuck, Perry Cook's STK, and my own Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pd.

My own Scheme for Max is (modesty aside) interesting because it takes one of the serious code tool lineages and enables running it in a DAW. It allows you to port Common Music algorithmic composition code into Ableton Live through Scheme for Max. You get the ability to work in and sync up with Live, but if you want it, all the potential complexity and power of Scheme and Common Music.

https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

BTW - shameless plug to you as a dev - I wrote Scheme For Max, which allows you to run a Scheme Lisp interpreter in both Max and Max4Live - you might want to check it out. Unlike the JS object, it can run in the high priority (timing) thread and does hot code reloading, and you can connect to a running instance over a sort of network repl using UDP. I remote control Live from Scheme code in Vim that way. It's super fun. https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

Hi, if you're interested in Overtone, you might be interested in my projects as well, Scheme for Max and Scheme for Pure Data. They use s7 Scheme, a very clojurish Scheme implementation designed for computer music needs by Bill Schottstaedt at CCRMA, of Common Lisp Music fame. Part of my motivation for creating it was to overcome some of what I perceived as limitations in options such as Overtone and Pink. https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-max

Unfortunately Overtone is not really active anymore, the its replacement loses the lisp!

Other interesting Scheme/Lisp based systems in similar areas are Extempore (formerly impromptu), Nyquist (by Dannenburg, another godfather of the field), and Common Music.