overtone VS penpot

> Midi being an “artist” tool places it more as a medium like paint.

I’ve used MIDI “as paint”.

Written music using code to MIDI(1), and wrote “cross instrument” music, ie using my keyboard as drum machine.

But these days MIDI is chiefly an archival method for me.

Every time I touch my keyboard is recorded, is much smaller than a comparable audio recording, by design “forced fidelity” in the recording, and I am able to pipe the MIDI format through transcription software (which would be near impossible from an audio recording today).

(1) http://overtone.github.io/

I've never actually used it myself. I've preferred systems that talk to SuperCollider, like overtone, because it's already rock solid and has lots of good DSP built in.

Thanks. I don't know to what extend its "better-because-of-clojure" but I also found overtone https://github.com/overtone/overtone which should be good fun (though the underlying synthesizer is supercollider/C++).

You might want to look at Overtone, which is a clojure environment built on top of overtone, and which integrates with processing and a few other similar things.

https://overtone.github.io/

> I'm fluent in Python but find the use of colons is the real sticking point.

The you'd probably have hated its predecessor which was all about the parentheses: https://overtone.github.io/

It's too bad that superficial stuff like which characters you need to type is holding you back. Getting used to Ruby when you're familiar with Python is no big deal. I would just stick with it

There's a project you may find interesting: https://overtone.github.io/. Besides sound/synthesis stuff, it has https://github.com/overtone/midi-clj library, which allows you to write MIDI as lisp (Clojure, to be precise) code. Emacs has great support for Clojure programming (via Cider), and REPL-based development is perfect for writing music.

Imagine designers and coders working seamlessly together. That's what Penpot aims to do. It's a tool where designers can create stunning designs, interactive prototypes, and design systems at scale. Developers then have ready-to-use code, which makes their workflows faster and more efficient. Penpot's latest version receives a new grid CSS layout, new UI, new components system, and more components. Oh and there's now light AND dark mode 🎉.

This is how I see things also. Clojure is extremely practical and naturally attracts people that want to ship products.

The "Figma OSS Alternative" post that's also on the HN homepage right now doesn't mention Clojure anywhere (no comments about it either!), but Penpot is clearly also yet another app successfully shipped using Clojure: https://github.com/penpot/penpot

Really neat. I was mainly curious to know when they are planning to release the self hosted docker versions of Penpot 2.0. Looks like its coming in the next couple days hopefully [1].

[1]: https://github.com/penpot/penpot/issues/4380

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A colleague had a quick presentation on Penpot[1] a few weeks back. Was a real contender I think.

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