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1,180 | 1,065 | |
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ostree
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NixOS Reproducible Builds: minimal ISO successfully independently rebuilt
Ansible makes mutable changes to the OS, task by task.
Nix is immutable. A new change is made entirely new, and only after the build is successful, all packages are "symlinked" to the current system.
Fedora Silverblue is based on ostree [1]. It works similarly like git, but on your root tree. But it requires you to reboot the whole system for the changes to take effect. Since Nix is just symlinked packages, you don't need to reboot the system.
More detailed explanation here [2].
[1]: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree
[2]: https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-07-12-intro-to-immutable-...
- Can't install from flathub
- hello guys everytime i intall a flatpak on fedora this error always happnes how do i fix it
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PSA: Flatpaks are currently broken on Fedora. Here's a temporary solution.
This one is for the ostree bug currently ongoing: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/2900
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flatpak issue on fedora 38 kde
This sounds related to the ostree bug.
- ostree-system-generator failed with exit status 1 on every boot after update.
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What do you prefer more and why?
I definitely agree that immutability offers considerable value in regards to improving security. But arguably it's insufficient to pull the win over mutable Fedora due to the losses caused by the inability to install the kernel-hardened package and the lack of UKI (Unified Kernel Image) support.
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Question about immutability
Other hardening guides mention a Unified Kernel Image as another measure to further improve security. Unfortunately, once more, this is (currently) not supported on Fedora Silverblue. I haven't seen it being done on openSUSE Aeon either. Though, once again, I'd love to be corrected!
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Does an immutable system really provide enhanced security?
The fedora crew is working on it through ostree though, so both fedora Silverblue and flatpak will be getting it (as well as true immutability) in the future: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/2867
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Silverblue/ Kinoite - real-life shortcomings?
Aside from what has already been mentioned, Unified Kernel Image isn't supported (yet).
flathub
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XZ backdoor story – Initial analysis
> Nobody ever even audits the binary contents of flatpaks on flathub (were they actually built from the source? the author attests so!).
IME/IIRC There aren't (or shouldn't be) any binary contents on Flathub that are submitted by the author, at least for projects with source available? You're supposed to submit a short, plain-text recipe instead, which then gets automatically built from source outside the control of the author.
> The Flathub service then uses the manifest from your repository to continuously build and distribute your application on every commit.
https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-app-authors/submission/#ho...
Usually the recipes should just list the appropriate URLs to get the source code, or, for proprietary applications, the official .DEBs. Kinda like AUR, but JSON/YAML. Easy to audit if you want:
https://github.com/orgs/flathub/repositories
- FOSS software is probably less likely to abuse this, but it just depends how ruthless the publisher is, a lot of people desire to be successful and it's human nature to look for advantages to put yourself above others in competitive environments.
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Flathub – The Linux App Store
I also don't believe third parties maintainers packaging software on flathub is a big issue but I'm also not familiar with how other distro repos trust their maintainers. Hopefully more developers maintain their flatpak themselves (or someone they trust) and get their apps verified. If most apps are verified, warning users of unverified apps might be a good idea.
There's ongoing discussion about splitting open source and proprietary apps in to seperate repos [1]. Additionally having seperate repos for verified and unverified apps might make it more obvious where an app comes from in the cli.
But I don't know how seamlessly an app could transition between being in the third party repo and being in the official repo. Having the user quietly stop receiving updates seems like a bad idea, but automatically migrating might not be desirable either.
I also think flatpaks cli interface needs some work. It is functional but far from distro package managers.
Being verified is especially important for critical apps. Recently someone added malicious versions of apps to the snap store [3]. This lead to people getting their cryptocurrency stolen.
[1] https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/691
[2] https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-app-authors/requirements
[3] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/temporary-suspension-of-automat...
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Bforartists Flatpak, coming soon to Flathub
That means Linux users can now install Bforartists on any Linux distro easily, regardless of glibc version! https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/4295
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Turtle 0.3 released (formerly TurtleGit)
Still having some problems with the flathub build, see https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/4082 for the current status.
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TurtleGit released, a git frontend for GNOME and Nautilus
Here is the flathub draft pull request: https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/4082
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The first tip to give to any new Linux user should be "do NOT search for, download, and install software on the Web!"
i assume you dont know how flathub works , theirs little or no QC , done flathub is just get told theirs an update for the package , if yo go look at the github repo pes https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/4164 for example , only updates the link to the girt repo , theirs 0 code checked
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Who is behind flathub and rpmfusion really?
It all should be written in pages for contributors, read the docs for fusion, and the docs for flathub.
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Flathub just hit 1 billion total downloads
These are criticisms of the flatpak ecosystem as it stands today. Currently, the Firefox ESR package on flathub seems to be caught in limbo or maybe dead. Mozilla publishes both a snap and a flatpak of Firefox latest, but only a snap of the ESR version. This raises the question of why. Have Mozilla chosen to invest more in snaps than in flatpaks? If so, what's their reasoning? (More users on snaps, making it similar to why they put more investment into Windows than Linux? Something else?) If they haven't invested more into snaps than flatpaks, is this a sign that it's harder to maintain flatpaks (or at least on flathub) than snaps? If that's true, I would hope that flatpak/flathub would be soliciting feedback from Mozilla about it.
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VirtualBox as Flatpak
Because that may be very hard to sandbox: https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/3366
What are some alternatives?
rpm-ostree - ⚛📦 Hybrid image/package system with atomic upgrades and package layering
ZeroTier-GUI - A Linux front-end for ZeroTier
apt2ostree - Build ostree images based on Debian/Ubuntu
Ryujinx - Experimental Nintendo Switch Emulator written in C#
bubblewrap - Low-level unprivileged sandboxing tool used by Flatpak and similar projects
flatpak - Linux application sandboxing and distribution framework
waydroid - Waydroid uses a container-based approach to boot a full Android system on a regular GNU/Linux system like Ubuntu.
openbsd-wip - OpenBSD work in progress ports
mkosi - 💽 Build Bespoke OS Images
steam-runtime - A runtime environment for Steam applications