openQA VS tumbleweed-cli

I sometimes look at https://openqa.opensuse.org/ when I'm excited for a new package release (example, kernel 6.5) just to see how far along the next snapshot is. While this is interesting, I can't seem to figure out which packages will be in the snapshot when I do this.

anyway, one great thing about SUSE is openqa.opensuse.org/ which does automatic testing that updates work before releasing....and every pkgs is build using Open Build Service (OBS) which is great as that makes sure Distro has more consistent/automatic binary built

I use Tumbleweed since years and although rolling, its more stable than Pop ever was for me. Stable in the sense of daily use and upgrading in particular. Every update you get on OpenSuse is, as a TLDR version of an explanation, run through an automated AI process that checks if everything works, only then the update is pushed out. The AI analyzes pictures of the OS to check. For example, it goes through the boot process and sees if it works, then clicks on certain apps like yast and see if they open, comparing whats shown on screen with a reference picture. You can see whats currently going on in terms of testing here.

I value Greg KH's Tumbleweed. It does everything I want. Thanks to build.opensuse.org and openqa.opensuse.org . If I had to start from scratch, MicroOs, I would learn along the way.

Rolling release players? openSUSE Tumbleweed (backed/tested by OpenQA before released), EndeavourOS (Arch with an installer; however, this could be too advanced when it breaks)

I would recommend openSUSE (KDE) tumbleweed you get the newest pkgs and they are well tested and they have great tools like openQA, obs, YaST etc. and if you have issue with any updates you can easily just rollback to latest working snapshot

And even though Arch stability heavily depends on the user and package maintainers doing everything right (I'm looking at you TimeShift), openSUSE, being backed by a company, have way more resources and robust infrastructure for ensuring their system is stable than Arch does (I have said this a couple of times, SUSE's openQA is incredible).

Tumbleweed is very current - well, as current as your last update.g/ This means that it's very rare that something is rolled out to the community that hasn't been tested as working.

There is a third controversial option: tumbleweed-cli which is helping to move from snapshot to snapshot. To be honest I'm not aware of the status.

Would this work? https://github.com/boombatower/tumbleweed-cli

There is also https://github.com/boombatower/tumbleweed-cli which i like very much when using tumbleweed

If the persistent updates or update notifications are the only problem for a switch to TW, then there's always the installable package 'tumbleweed-cli' (you can find it in the repos) more infos. https://github.com/boombatower/tumbleweed-cli With this you can set a specific opensuse snapshot. This should only be used for updates, not for rollbacks, that's what snapper is for. As far as I know monthly updating is recommended (at least).

A certain number of older snapshots is kept on the mirrors and can be chosen with tumbleweed-cli.

Jesus. It's not that zypper isn't a good tool, it's that tumbleweed-cli uses the snapshot versions, and is actually designed for this exact use case. See this thread and the comment by u/bommbatower for more information.

I use tumbleweed-cli to upgrade from a solid snapshot to the next one, typically once every two weeks or so. This allows rolling as quickly or slowly as is desired, provided the snapshots are still available here: http://download.opensuse.org/history/

I'd suggest you to install tumbleweed-cli (zypper in tumbleweed-cli) to target a specific snapshot, so you're not going to upgrade your system all the time, but only when a new snapshot is released (and when you want to switch to it, at your discretion).

I do believe you're right! My mistake. That's good to know. It looks like it's just the scoring system that's done by a third party - unless I'm wrong again :) Please let me know if I am. I'm still hesitant to use it with respect to the scoring system as an ordinary user. I was under the misconception that the github repo at https://github.com/boombatower/tumbleweed-cli would have been under the official opensuse github repo.