oksh VS nix-darwin

David Korn's ksh93 was passed on to a new set of developers, who attempted to release a new version; AT&T rolled back these changes due to performance problems which raised questions of support status. It does appear that ksh93 development has resumed, and a new version was released late last year.

https://github.com/ksh93/ksh/releases

The independent pdksh spawned mksh, which is the default shell used in Android (as it has a BSD license); mksh appears to be very much active.

http://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm [https site has cert problems]

OpenBSD also forked oksh from pdksh. This is certainly well-maintained.

https://github.com/ibara/oksh

I don't know if this is helpful or just annoying unsolicited "advice"

Anyway, for those of us who like openbsd ksh(all two of us) which is derived from pdksh. there is the project oksh.

https://github.com/ibara/oksh

I like oksh: https://github.com/ibara/oksh

...and that ksh descended from pdksh, and is distributed as the oksh portable project here:

https://github.com/ibara/oksh

The MirBSD Korn Shell also descended from pdksh, and it can be found here:

http://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm

I don't know about the feature differences and code quality between these two; they both implement most of ksh88, and a small amount of ksh93.

I prefer mksh when I need something more than a POSIX shell.

Brian Callahan publishes a portable version here: https://github.com/ibara/oksh

Porting from OpenBSD, look for the portable versions and their compat layer. https://github.com/ibara/oksh/blob/master/portable.h

Just a shout out to nix-darwin[1]. It is nix, so initial setup is a bit involved. But then it truly makes it easy to configure everything in one place including mac defaults, homebrew apps declaratively and mas apps etc.

There is a sample config in nix-darwin repo[2].

[1] https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin

[2] https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin/blob/master/modules/examp...

https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin/tree/master/modules

nix-darwin does similar thing for MacOS

You can use https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin

There are many threads around where you can learn more about this (and why it's complicated...), but https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/issues/1341 and https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin/issues/139 seem like two of the most comprehensive.

Nix is pretty usable for both desktops and headless servers. Personally, I even use it on macOS without much trouble.

My system looks like any other install of Ventura, but all of my configuration, ranging from the terminal and VS Code to macOS-specific system preferences and Safari, is done declaratively in Nix [1]. The overwhelming majority of my installed software also comes from Nix packages, with some exceptions for stuff that is not packaged yet (e.g., I have Podman Desktop, the macOS ZFS port, Lulu, yubikey-manager-qt installed through Homebrew -- fortunately nix-darwin [2] also just lets me have an set of brews/casks in my config).

It was been a bit of a nightmare at first since the error messages are kind of horrific, and there can be a lack of good examples/docs on flakes. But I think the weekend worth of time I invested was worth it since I no longer need to rely on hacky shellscripts or remember to manually configure anything.

[1]: <https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager>

[2]: <https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin>

Take a look at nix-darwin, this is what I use. It allows you to configure your system similar to NixOS including globally installed programs.

This — I still use mas and brew —-cask through the nix-darwin module, though. It’s not exactly reproducible, but it’s at least closer to reproducible and declarative.