ogatak VS Sabaki

Thanks, that seems like a very good advice. I have now actually managed to get Katago to work with Ogatak (step by step instructions can be found here), and I am slowly getting somewhat of a grip by watching youtube videos of varying quality. But it is a very piecemeal approach and I would really love to have a more systematic way of learning the ropes. But like I said, overall I am of course just super happy that there are these riches out there!

I used KataGo on Katrain, Sabaki, Lizzie ... but the one I like best is Ogatak: https://github.com/rooklift/ogatak/ Maybe you want to give it a try.

Certain SGF editors can do this. I know Ogatak can (because I wrote it) although it's really a KataGo GUI first and only an SGF editor second.

Ogatak is a nice responsive graphical interface for playing variations and reviewing.

I like Sabaki, but there's also GoWrite, CGoban (the KGS client), and others (search for "SGF editor"). You can also review .sgf with OGS online, or with AI Sensei. KaTrain is a very good AI client that can review .sgf as well.

Actually, you can connect an AI engine like KataGo to Sabaki. You need to install the AI engine separately and understand command lines though.

I've been using ChatGPT since launch and constantly seeking out examples of how others have been using it. A few years ago I started using KataGo with Sabaki to improve my go-playing abilities. I've known about token embeddings in neural networks before ChatGPT was a twinkle in OpenAI's eye. I was there, but I haven't seen everything you've seen, so please show me. If the truth is that ChatGPT has canned responses to some prompt or set of prompts, then I want to believe that it does. If I have misconceptions about anything, I want to break those misconceptions. As long as your beliefs and mine contradict one another, one of us has the opportunity to learn.

It's a feature with sabaki, to make it look resemble a real board more.

That said, if you can download some sgfs and view them in a tool like [sabaki]((https://sabaki.yichuanshen.de/), you can try and match the score that the computer reports. You can get SGFs from here - other sources are available. Be sure to find games which were won on points. You can't count a game won by resignation.

I like Sabaki

It's a shame because KGS would benefit greatly from a modern client. I think at this point writing a new client from scratch would be preferable, or maybe taking something like [Sabaki](https://sabaki.yichuanshen.de/) and turning it into a KGS client might be viable. Speaking of which, Sabaki is a good option for those looking to contribute to an open source project.

Sabaki has the "guess" mode which is great for this.