nimnews VS freenet-core

The issue with moderation is that not everyone agrees. Moderation should be plug-in and multilayer. Everyone should be able to choose which moderation they trust or distrust.

Full p2p is technically complicated and does not work well for small devices not always connected, we should keep servers to host the discussions.

The servers should be able to subscribe to a moderation. You don't want to host a discussion illegal in your country gor example. Users should also be able to move servers painlessly. If the users trust their servers with their identity, it does not need to use crypto for user identity. On your profile page on a server you can link other servers identity and that's enough and simpler.

If a discussion group is private, it should only be hosted in servers of their members and not elsewhere.

I started working on such a system https://github.com/mildred/nimnews but beyond the technical stuff I have no idea how this could gain adoption.

I just picked Dioxus to build a decentralized homepage for Freenet[1], it will be the first decentralized website people see when they get Freenet set up. It reminds me a bit of my Kotlin web framework called Kweb[2] that I've been working on on-and-off for a few years now, particularly the way it handles state and the DSL that maps from code to HTML. So far I like what I see.

[1] https://freenet.org/

[2] https://kweb.io/

I find that surprising, even in 2010 it was difficult to find illegal content on Freenet unless you were looking at it - and certainly in recent years it's virtually impossible, the default indexes are carefully vetted.

In any case, the original Freenet was never going to be a general-purpose replacement for today's centralized services. For the past few years we've been working on a sequel to Freenet, you can learn about it at https://freenet.org/.

MaidSAFE appears to be just another IPFS which you can pay to get your data hosted on.

HyperCore apparently got acquired and they are a company seeling solutions to businesses.

Freenet 2023 is a FOSS project. I'm watching the matrix server for a while. Ian says they're launching the network in 2 weeks. It is a decentralized data store + runtime. So while the original Freenet was analogous to disk, Freenet 2023 is analogous to an entire computer. See https://freenet.org/

I loved playing around with Gemini. Something loosely along those lines can definitely work. Who knows what will become popular in the future. Extreme web page bloat leaves the door open.

Here are a couple of other alternative ideas for the web:

https://freenet.org/

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet (an idea, not implemented)

I think cryptography is a decentralizing force in general, though its intersection with ML is small, Also, related things, steganography, differential privacy, federated learning, all things that tend to decentralize. Anonymizing text fingerprint with LLMs, ML-ish censor evading algo , possibility of a decentralized vector database

btw, you may be interested in https://github.com/freenet/locutus/

Through a variety of mechanisms that you can read about here.

This Friday we will be hosting an AMA with Ian Clarke (/u/sanity) the creator of FreeNet and the recently announced FreeNet 2023.

check out https://github.com/freenet/locutus/discussions/619 i like it