freenet-core VS ZeroNet

I just picked Dioxus to build a decentralized homepage for Freenet[1], it will be the first decentralized website people see when they get Freenet set up. It reminds me a bit of my Kotlin web framework called Kweb[2] that I've been working on on-and-off for a few years now, particularly the way it handles state and the DSL that maps from code to HTML. So far I like what I see.

[1] https://freenet.org/

[2] https://kweb.io/

I find that surprising, even in 2010 it was difficult to find illegal content on Freenet unless you were looking at it - and certainly in recent years it's virtually impossible, the default indexes are carefully vetted.

In any case, the original Freenet was never going to be a general-purpose replacement for today's centralized services. For the past few years we've been working on a sequel to Freenet, you can learn about it at https://freenet.org/.

MaidSAFE appears to be just another IPFS which you can pay to get your data hosted on.

HyperCore apparently got acquired and they are a company seeling solutions to businesses.

Freenet 2023 is a FOSS project. I'm watching the matrix server for a while. Ian says they're launching the network in 2 weeks. It is a decentralized data store + runtime. So while the original Freenet was analogous to disk, Freenet 2023 is analogous to an entire computer. See https://freenet.org/

I loved playing around with Gemini. Something loosely along those lines can definitely work. Who knows what will become popular in the future. Extreme web page bloat leaves the door open.

Here are a couple of other alternative ideas for the web:

https://freenet.org/

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet (an idea, not implemented)

I think cryptography is a decentralizing force in general, though its intersection with ML is small, Also, related things, steganography, differential privacy, federated learning, all things that tend to decentralize. Anonymizing text fingerprint with LLMs, ML-ish censor evading algo , possibility of a decentralized vector database

btw, you may be interested in https://github.com/freenet/locutus/

Through a variety of mechanisms that you can read about here.

This Friday we will be hosting an AMA with Ian Clarke (/u/sanity) the creator of FreeNet and the recently announced FreeNet 2023.

check out https://github.com/freenet/locutus/discussions/619 i like it

our views on the project are incompatible. i consider it harmful to the community to: - advertise fork as official continuation (the worst parts of this were eventually removed, but the project's website still completely mimics official and there's no indication it's a fork anywhere - ship binaries presumably made out of builds made by disappeared nofish - copypaste changes without attribution

Or Zeronet (which is public): https://zeronet.dev/

Forks are currently active, one is maintained by me as ZeroNetX, https://zeronet.dev

More on How ZeroNet Works at https://zeronet.dev

Yep :) https://zeronet.dev/

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/ZeroNet contains information of the project before its original developer disappeared and the forks emerged . as a lead developer of one of the forks i don't want to edit the page myself , lest someone paint me unobjective , but the page needs to cover the changes and security implications . feel free to drop by on https://reddit.com/r/zeronet or discuss things on gh directly with fork devs : - https://github.com/zeronet-conservancy/zeronet-conservancy - https://github.com/ZeroNetX/ZeroNet

It seems a good project in early stages. Have you heard about ZeroNet? What do you think about this? And how Locutus is different from Zeronet?

ZeroNetX - by @pramukesh/@canewsin (github), https://github.com/canewsin/ZeroNet, https://zeronet.dev Second fork, i've no idea why it happened (possibly absence of @geekless? i wasn't around and didn't follow how events developed, but they were still around the internets around that time (and then i couldn't contact them any longer))