neon VS Gravitational Teleport

Such is the case with Neon, a serverless Postgres service, that went generally available on April 15. Congrats Nikita Shamgunov and team on the launch. When I saw the announcement, I knew I had to try it out for myself and report back with my findings.

I want to use this as a chance to bring attention to a GitHub issue that I think would help reduce friction for Neon:

https://github.com/neondatabase/neon/issues/4989

If the Neon driver were to allow us to easily pass in a localhost connection, the development and test experience would be easier. Perhaps Neon could swap to something like this internally: https://github.com/porsager/postgres.

Having run a local dev environment connected to Neon and tests connected to Neon got in our way of adoption. We'd prefer to develop and run tests against a regular Postgres localhost database.

To the PMs of Neon, put yourself in the shoes of a new developer thinking of giving Neon a try. What changes will I have to make to my code and my development workflow?

Neon is an open source and cloud-native serverless database platform that focuses on simplicity and ease of use. It supports Postgres databases and offers built-in features like bottomless storage, autoscaling, and branching.

For MySQL, we've got PlanetScale, and for PostgreSQL, there's Neon.

8. https://neon.tech/As you might know not one tool fits all, I still have strong preferences for the following. It helps me get going faster and get things done right first time and helps in ease of maintenance.

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Migrated away when they removed the free tier, ended up using https://neon.tech/

Cool! At Neon[0], I work full time on our custom postgres proxy[1]. It's a very nice protocol to work with, although our usecase is quite a bit more complex compared to the ideas presented in the post.

Neon databases scale to zero, so the proxy needs to spin up databases on the fly. The proxy doesn't do that but it knows if the databases is running and asks our control plane to schedule it if it isn't. It's a fun service to maintain.

The biggest pain is error handling. Postgres is really bad for error messages and codes. The only available code we can use is usually protocol violation...

[0]: https://neon.tech/

Neon - PostgreSQL

For those looking for alternatives check out https://neon.tech/, https://turso.tech/ and https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/.

Teleport - Comprehensive control plane tool, but also supports accessing apps behind NATs. Written in Go.

https://github.com/gravitational/teleport/blob/master/rfd/00...

I ordinarily would have said you reinvented Teleport <https://github.com/gravitational/teleport/tree/v14.3.7#readm...> but now that they've gone AGPL with v15 I'm guessing there's a market for MIT licensed stuff, although for sure since Teleport has been around for so long it has encountered more edge cases and undergone more security reviews. I was surprised while digging up the link that Gravatational is still releasing v13 and v14 updates under Apache 2, so maybe even Teleport will continue to have legs for those who cannot deploy AGPL stuff

Teleport is an SSH for Clusters and Teams and aims to be the drop-in replacement for OpenSSH.

Are you looking to set up SSO for your cloud infrastructure? Or maybe establish tunnels to access services behind NATs and firewalls. Then Teleport is for you. It provides connectivity, authentication, access controls and audit for infrastructure. The newest update has a tonne of new features and improvements including enhanced device trust support, SSH connection resumption, MFA for admin actions, improved provisioning for Okta, and heaps. more. Check out all the changes in the Teleport release notes.

In case you didn't see it: https://goteleport.com/blog/teleport-oss-switches-to-agpl-v3... and https://github.com/gravitational/teleport/pull/35259

I readily admit it's not the same amount of :fu: as BuSL or whatever the fuck is going on over at Sentry but still :-( as compared to their much friendlier Apache 2

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OP here, thanks for posting! Happy to Answer any questions. I have to give our a shoutout to Alan at Teleport for all his work on Passwordless and his work to make Passwordless / TouchID work with MacOS CLI https://github.com/gravitational/teleport/blob/master/rfd/00...