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nbb
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Embeddable Common Lisp 23.9.9
The SCI/babashka clojure interpreter might be a good fit, if you're ok with a lisp.
It's mature and fully sandboxed.
https://github.com/babashka/nbb
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create-helix-app: project templates with Helix and more
To try it out, run npx create-helix-app in your terminal. It is powered by Nbb, Ink, and Helix itself!
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Releasing Longdown: Convert longform markdown files to outline format used by Logseq
Thanks for building! May also want to share in #extension-news in discord to reach more users. Fwiw, you might be able to write the whole script without the need for compilation with https://github.com/babashka/nbb. You may also be interested in https://github.com/logseq/nbb-logseq as a fair amount of logseq core is scriptable
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Administrative Scripting with Julia
I wish there was something elaborated for scripts that run on Node. I've been using nbb[1] for scripting, and although it all runs through Node.js, it is fast and quick to prototype scripts. The best part is in CI I can simply `npx nbb path/to/script.cljs`. Things get clunky if I want to use anything about of the Node stdlib though, since then you need the dreaded node_modules folder around.
[1] https://github.com/babashka/nbb
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I'm considering moving from Clojure to Common Lisp
For clojure I just found for babashka it seems someone natively compiled jsoup with graalvm and exposed (minimal functionality from it) as a babashka pod, or a possibility would be use nbb like babashka for node. But if racket has the libraries you need and you don't need js/jvm ecosystem than I'm sure it'll be great also
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Is anyone using Shadow on the backend ?
There are some folks using nbb on the backend as well: https://github.com/babashka/nbb, e.g. in AWS Lambdas or via the sitefox framework: https://github.com/chr15m/sitefox. Don't expect stellar performance from nbb since it's interpreted CLJS rather than compiled (as you have with shadow-cljs) but for small scoped projects and fast prototyping it might be ok.
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What's the best lisp to js compiler
https://github.com/babashka/nbb (babashka for nodejs)
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nbb: I'm confused how to include dependencies from Clojars
I tried reproducing this example from the nbb documentation.
- nbb, scripting for Clojure on Node.js, turns 1.0!
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i am so ANGRY with Clojure community
If you don't want to deal with the tooling but want to practice the language, have a look at https://github.com/babashka/nbb
helix
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create-helix-app: project templates with Helix and more
In short, performance, easier interop with JS react libraries, better static analysis, and being able to use modern React features. For more details, see https://github.com/lilactown/helix/blob/master/docs/motivation.md and https://github.com/lilactown/helix/blob/master/docs/faq.md#what-about-hiccup. It's also worth checking this blog post: https://fbeyer.com/posts/refx-origins/
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Is there a simply way to write small, portable UIs in Clojure/script? Something akin to Elm
You can ignore the malli/react-hook-form part - the relevant parts are the entry namespace and the shadow-cljs config. This example uses https://github.com/lilactown/helix (great tutorial here https://github.com/iwrotesomecode/react-docs-helix) but you can use reagent if you wish. I think this should meet your requirements. You can inline your data in the cljs bundle as data and add UI via react components.
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React.dev - are CLJS developers using Reagent in trouble?
[1] https://github.com/lilactown/helix [2] https://github.com/ferdinand-beyer/refx
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React.dev
> But Reagent supports functional components as well, with hooks and all.
I addressed this already: while reagent is able to emit function components, there is a performance penalty to this.[1]
> I also very much like Hiccup, and so do many of us, because code is data and data is code, and Helix has decided not to support that.
Hiccup is convenient to write, but it is a constant run-time cost and a significant storage cost given that you have to store long series of constructors to cljs.core.PersistentVector in your bundle, have the JS runtime actually construct the vector, then pass it through a Hiccup interpreter to finally produce DOM nodes and throw away the persistent vector, only to repeat this entire process again on re-render.[2]
> Helix has decided not to support that.
That is simply not true. From the Helix documentation[2],
> If you want to use libraries like sablono, hicada or even hx hiccup parser, you can easily add that by creating a custom macro.
These are all Hiccup interpreters you can readily use.
IME there is very little difference between using the $ macro in Helix and writing Hiccup. I do not really miss Hiccup when I use Helix, and you still have data as code ;)
While this is from an unrelated project, there are benchmarks[3] done against Reagent that demonstrate the sheer overhead it has. In practice it is not a big problem if you rarely trigger a re-render, but otherwise it is a non-trivial cost, and if you want to use modern React features (like Suspense), there is a lot of r/as-element mingling going on, converting cases, etc. that simply make Reagent feel more tedious to use than Helix.
Also, the newer UIx2, which largely borrows from Helix, is "3.2x faster than Reagent" according to one of the contributors.[4]
I think it'd be worthwhile to benchmark all of these libraries against each other and record the data in one place. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this weekend :)
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[1] https://github.com/reagent-project/reagent/blob/master/doc/R...
[2] https://github.com/lilactown/helix/blob/master/docs/faq.md#w...
[3] https://github.com/roman01la/uix#benchmarks
[4] https://github.com/pitch-io/uix/pull/12
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What is the state of frontend animation in React/ClojureScript?
Helix is also worth checking our for lightweight React integration and hooks support.
- reframe or plain reagent for new cljs SPA?
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How does Reagent/re-frame bypass the prolifeation of React hooks?
Helix is a thinner library with access to hooks, if you want them.
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Reflecting on 18 months of Clojure - Building a SaaS business with Clojure
helix
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re-frame vs react
You mentioned liking React hooks, would helix be more to your liking?
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Keechma vs Keechma.next
Keechma/next is integrated directly with React through the hooks system (and using the excellent Helix library. You can find the integration code in the Keechma/next toolbox - especially https://github.com/keechma/keechma-next-toolbox/blob/master/src/keechma/next/helix/core.cljs
What are some alternatives?
babashka - Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting
uix - Idiomatic ClojureScript interface to modern React.js
babashka-sql-pods - Babashka pods for SQL databases
reagent - A minimalistic ClojureScript interface to React.js
clojure - The Clojure programming language
shadow-cljs - ClojureScript compilation made easy
deps.clj - A faithful port of the clojure CLI bash script to Clojure
liveview-clj
dbcore - Generate applications powered by your database.
om - ClojureScript interface to Facebook's React
integrant - simplified integrant
storybook.js-with-shadow-cljs